Impeaching Donald Trump

[Peter McLennan]

The facts often lead to winning.  In your case your "facts" were a loser.

Yet you studiously avoided contesting (let alone discussing) any of my facts, instead stating they were "A perfect example of a non sequiter".

[Craig Lamson]

Precisely.  JFK didn't brag about it.

How do you know he didnt brag about it?  But that aside, JFK screwing pretty much every woman he could while married, makes JFK so much more "presidental.  Right.  You should learn the first rule of holes....

[Craig Lamson]

Yet you studiously avoided contesting (let alone discussing) any of my facts, instead stating they were "A perfect example of a non sequiter".

What's to discuss.  You were talking about personal traits and when challanged you brought up something entirely different.  Just take your lumps. admit you did it wrong and move on.  Just a suggestion, mind you.

BTW, I'm not contesting each of those Presidents did some good things policy wise.  The same can be said for Trump.

[Peter McLennan]

How do you know he didnt brag about it? 

If he did, at least he didn't get caught on tape doing it.

[Peter McLennan]

Just take your lumps. admit you did it wrong and move on.  Just a suggestion, mind you.

Studiously ignored.

[Craig Lamson]

If he did, at least he didn't get caught on tape doing it.

Thanks for admitting you were wrong...again.

[Alan Klein]

If he did, at least he didn't get caught on tape doing it.

Trump never was a politician until becoming president.  So he didn't care much.  That's why many people like him.  He tells it like it is.  Of course that gets him into trouble very often today because he is a politician.

[Peter McLennan]

Interesting things about the Impeachment Hearings, nearly all of which I've watched live, including the sessions before and after the holidays:

1) Those lawyers are good!  Both Schiff's and Sekulow's presentations were very, very convincing.

2) The only television network in the US to offer continuous, live, commercial-free broadcast of the hearings in their entirety is the ever-hated target of <insert usual suspects here> the despicable beacon of MSM, CNN. 

By contrast, Fox News studiously avoided any live coverage.

3) These hearings are an excellent window into the opaque world of US politics.  Witnessing these proceedings live and unedited is privilege for all of us, especially foreigners.

[Peter McLennan]

That's why many people like him.  He tells it like it is.

No, Alan.  He tells it like you think you want to hear.

[Peter McLennan]

Thanks for admitting you were wrong...again.

[sarcasm on] At least I have the courage to do so.  [/sarcasm off]

[Alan Klein]

Peter I only saw a little of the lawyers.  Unfortunately, the spin that comes afterwards is what's important because most people don't have time to watch.  They're working trying to feed their families.   So each news center will broadcast the part that makes their side's viewpoint look better.  Since most of the news media is anti-Trump, that's how it will appear to most people. 

The fact is there are good arguments on both sides.  But to remove a president, you need a really convincing case, one that crosses party lines like with Nixon.  The case here is too minor to get that reaction.  It's just not an impeachable offense even if there was totally convincing evidence, which there isn;t.  Frankly, it's all politics.   A tempest in a teapot.

What I find interesting is that the Senators can't say a damn thing.  They have to listen to both side's lawyers give their speil.   It must be very heady to be a lawyer giving a statement to the US Senate and 100 senators who have to sit there quietly listening to what you have to say.  Think of all the books they can write later and make millions. 

I wonder how all this will affect Biden's nomination.

[LesPalenik]

I wonder how all this will affect Biden's nomination.

Should be good for Buttigieg.

[Craig Lamson]

Trump never was a politician until becoming president.  So he didn't care much.  That's why many people like him.  He tells it like it is.  Of course that gets him into trouble very often today because he is a politician.

I think the biggest reason we have nothing like that from JFK is the press did not usually report such things then.  Lots of interesting detail about that if you search.

[Craig Lamson]

Interesting things about the Impeachment Hearings, nearly all of which I've watched live, including the sessions before and after the holidays:

1) Those lawyers are good!  Both Schiff's and Sekulow's presentations were very, very convincing.

2) The only television network in the US to offer continuous, live, commercial-free broadcast of the hearings in their entirety is the ever-hated target of <insert usual suspects here> the despicable beacon of MSM, CNN. 

By contrast, Fox News studiously avoided any live coverage.

3) These hearings are an excellent window into the opaque world of US politics.  Witnessing these proceedings live and unedited is privilege for all of us, especially foreigners.

I've watched a lot of live coverage on Fox.  Maybe your set is broken.

[Craig Lamson]

[sarcasm on] At least I have the courage to do so.  [/sarcasm off]

[sarcasm on] Yes, you are truly courageous[/sarcasm off]

[Peter McLennan]

continuous, live, commercial-free broadcast of the hearings in their entirety

In case you need remedial work in reading comprehension.

[Craig Lamson]

In case you need remedial work in reading comprehension.

Maybe YOU need to learn what YOU write...Sheesh...

By contrast, Fox News studiously avoided any live coverage

First rule of holes.....

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... boast publicly about their p***y grabbing exploits.

Sorry, Les, it was not public, it was a private conversation, that should have never been aired publicly.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Maybe here the shorts need to be that long

 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... The dismissal was advocated by the  International Monetary Fund, the European Union, the U.S. government, foreign investors, and Ukrainian advocates of reform...

Please quote some sources for the above claims.