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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3180 on: January 20, 2020, 11:41:37 am »

Biden campaign warns media over impeachment disinformation.

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEFdkO1kKo5AZ6fJzsSXs7JYqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowvIaCCzDnxf4CMP2F8gU?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Why does Biden bother? Any legitimate press already knows that the GOP have been spreading misinformation for a long time.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3181 on: January 20, 2020, 12:19:26 pm »

The "free market" presidency!  Here's an interesting article discussing Trump's various conflicts of interest, all quite apart from the ones directly related to impeachment, https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/20/trump-businesses-empire-tied-presidency-100496.  I particularly like the connection between the guy at the IRS who would not authorize the release of Trump tax data who also happens to have tie-ins with Trump properties.

Talk about a swamp.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3182 on: January 20, 2020, 12:55:22 pm »

Is a release of tax data even legal? I wouldn’t be happy if someone released mine.

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« Reply #3183 on: January 20, 2020, 01:48:45 pm »

Is a release of tax data even legal? I wouldn’t be happy if someone released mine.

In general, no.  The federal government may never publicly release an individual's tax information.

Some congressional committees are authorized by statute to request the disclosure of tax information, as are state tax collection agencies.  And federal courts may order the release of tax information for use in criminal investigations.  There are a few other less common exceptions.  In all these special cases, the recipients must comply with restrictions on the use and any further publication of the taxpayer's information.

Of course, a taxpayer may voluntarily release his or her own tax information.  Presidential candidates selected by the major political parties have done so for many years, as have all presidents since Nixon except for President Trump.

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3184 on: January 20, 2020, 03:01:29 pm »

His taxes are nobody's else's business.  If he released them, the Democrats would have spent three years knocking him about every miniscule detail.  He's never been charged with criminal violation of tax laws.  So everything else is his own business.  Other presidents didn;t have the complications of owning 500 businesses including overseas.  Additionally, revelation of business info could hurt him by opening up his methodology and interests to competitors.  This was all settled in the last election when he won in spite of not releasing them.  Maybe because he didn't by showing the electorate he';s different then the rest of the political class who go along to get along.

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3185 on: January 20, 2020, 03:03:11 pm »

One year from today Trump will start his second term.  ;D ;D :D :D
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« Reply #3186 on: January 20, 2020, 03:10:03 pm »

Why does Biden bother? Any legitimate press already knows that the GOP have been spreading misinformation for a long time.
VP Biden was warned by other Democrats in the Obama administration to recuse himself from involvement in Ukraine.  He should not have gotten rid of the prosecutor looking into the corrupt corporation Burisma his son was getting $50K a month from.  Biden refused and continued his involvement either because he's stupid, politically inept after being a politician for 45 years, or because he deliberately did what he did to help his son.  That's not misinformation.  Biden looks corrupt except for the press trying to protect him.  The president argument will be he ask Ukraine to investigate corruption before releasing money.  Since there's an appearance of corruption on Biden;s part, that's a perfectly legal request.  Biden's democrat opponents are not saying anything but they're drooling behind the scenes. 

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« Reply #3187 on: January 20, 2020, 03:42:05 pm »

One year from today Trump will start his second term.  ;D ;D :D :D

second term in the old office or first term in another place

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Among President Donald Trump’s most compelling reasons to work as hard as possible to remain in the White House might be to stay out of prison, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff said Tuesday.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/trump-avoiding-prison-adam-schiff_n_5c87f336e4b038892f47f47b?ri18n=true&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNhLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEclXP4Zo5lAFoF8glTjEO0IJ2Dy_DJZVxhbejTdAihEkIdR2DqEFrRi3O7eagYz7j3sYuQuqMhco_RTm0NwjerHojFQEB4DrFTtHGm3aq2kwE0ugFQNGK4zVuEqWAbgOCRvb8P7-Tn5cYsnvlmL3dMPO0t2xmxIs2smka7VTiZD

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3189 on: January 20, 2020, 05:09:29 pm »

VP Biden was warned by other Democrats in the Obama administration to recuse himself from involvement in Ukraine.  He should not have gotten rid of the prosecutor looking into the corrupt corporation Burisma his son was getting $50K a month from.  Biden refused and continued his involvement either because he's stupid, politically inept after being a politician for 45 years, or because he deliberately did what he did to help his son.  That's not misinformation.  Biden looks corrupt except for the press trying to protect him.  The president argument will be he ask Ukraine to investigate corruption before releasing money.  Since there's an appearance of corruption on Biden;s part, that's a perfectly legal request.  Biden's democrat opponents are not saying anything but they're drooling behind the scenes.

False. Biden and his allies worked to oust the Ukrainian prosecutor because he *WAS NOT* pursuing corruption cases. Shokin (the prosecutor) was facing international calls for his ouster, and he was ousted by the Ukrainian parliament. His lack of action on corruption has been verified by Ukrainian officials and several Ukraine experts in the US gov't. He was not looking into the gas company or anything else, it seems. This is all crapola invented by Giuliani.

And what's wrong with Biden's son making $50k a month simply for lending his name to the company? Michael Jordan makes $15 MILLION a month for letting Nike use his name.

And Trump himself has licensed his name at least 50 times for money.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3190 on: January 20, 2020, 05:18:47 pm »

False. Biden and his allies worked to oust the Ukrainian prosecutor because he *WAS NOT* pursuing corruption cases. Shokin (the prosecutor) was facing international calls for his ouster, and he was ousted by the Ukrainian parliament. His lack of action on corruption has been verified by Ukrainian officials and several Ukraine experts in the US gov't. He was not looking into the gas company or anything else, it seems. This is all crapola invented by Giuliani.

And what's wrong with Biden's son making $50k a month simply for lending his name to the company? Michael Jordan makes $15 MILLION a month for letting Nike use his name.

And Trump himself has licensed his name at least 50 times for money.

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3192 on: January 20, 2020, 06:55:59 pm »

..Biden looks corrupt......      except for the press trying to protect him...
yes he can't help it... its just how he looks... not as handsome and honest looking as Trump....
but fortunately the press helps him look a lot better... more honest, younger also ...    hay! there he walks ! Your next President!
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« Reply #3193 on: January 20, 2020, 07:06:27 pm »

LOL

Biden is the past.  The country’s moved on from weak foreign policy, bending over for China, anemic economic growth, the failures of the ACA, the Biden family business, etc. 

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3194 on: January 20, 2020, 07:18:18 pm »

... not as handsome and honest looking as Trump...
... as he spits his coffee on his laptop screen...

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3195 on: January 20, 2020, 08:03:35 pm »

False. Biden and his allies worked to oust the Ukrainian prosecutor because he *WAS NOT* pursuing corruption cases. Shokin (the prosecutor) was facing international calls for his ouster, and he was ousted by the Ukrainian parliament. His lack of action on corruption has been verified by Ukrainian officials and several Ukraine experts in the US gov't. He was not looking into the gas company or anything else, it seems. This is all crapola invented by Giuliani.

And what's wrong with Biden's son making $50k a month simply for lending his name to the company? Michael Jordan makes $15 MILLION a month for letting Nike use his name.

And Trump himself has licensed his name at least 50 times for money.
Biden's son couldn't do a dunk shot if he stood on Michael Jordan's shoulders.

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« Reply #3196 on: January 20, 2020, 09:15:43 pm »

LOL

Biden is the past.  ...
Trump is the future? The older the better? Old cynical men reign
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3197 on: January 20, 2020, 09:29:13 pm »

In small countries like Austria or Finland, you can have 33-34 olds as head of the state.
The bigger the country, the older the president.

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« Reply #3198 on: January 21, 2020, 05:29:45 am »

Trump is the future? The older the better? Old cynical men reign

When Biden was in the White House with Obama, we had anemic growth due to the same regulations and taxes he wants to put back in place.  China was getting away with murder, and everyone, on the right and left, nows feels they are a threat and need to be dealt with, except of course Biden.  He constantly calls them our friend.  Plus, he has been wrong on every single foreign policy decision, even advising Obama to stand down on the  Bin Laden raid solely because it could cost them the election.  Nothing says protector and chief like, hey we cant get the #1 terrorist on the planet because it could effect my re-election.  He supports the fairy tail of the Green New Deal without even suggesting nuclear as an option, which means he will shut down our energy sector and lead us back to being dependent on the Middle East. 

He has no qualms about this either.  In a debate, to whether or not he would be okay destroying 100,000s of jobs in the  energy sector, he said, "the answer  is yes."  He then later told coal miners that they better learn how to program.  Think of the great campaign commercials these comments will make. 

He constantly touts his civil rights experience, but even the NYTs has reports that nearly everything he boast about is false and the remaining events he claims he was at, there exist no documentation he was even there.  Another great set of commercials right here, Biden lying about his civil rights experience, which Trump will use. 

So yes, Biden is stuck in the last decade. 
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3199 on: January 21, 2020, 07:10:04 am »

In small countries like Austria or Finland, you can have 33-34 olds as head of the state.
The bigger the country, the older the president.

Of course. When the country is the size of a post stamp, it doesn’t take that many years to walk around and get to know all the aspects of it (there aren't that many to begin with, due to a more homogeneous religious, racial, ethnic, etc. culture).
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