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Slobodan Blagojevic

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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #780 on: September 06, 2019, 07:39:52 pm »

... one possible reason could be that 90% of university professors are also allegedly lefties.

How else would Karla Marx graduate!?

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« Reply #781 on: September 06, 2019, 08:54:37 pm »

Fake choice.  Liberals are attracted to media.  So the "conspiracy", if you will,  is that they think alike.

I find that explanation rather opaque.  It’s certainly terse. 

Could you explain a little more?
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« Reply #782 on: September 06, 2019, 09:02:15 pm »

What surveys and why is it so? If 90% of the freshly minted journalists are indeed lefties, one possible reason could be that 90% of university professors are also allegedly lefties.
Only 7% of journalists identify themselves as Republicans. More importantly, media is concentrated in the big liberal markets of NYC and LA and only a few other places that reflect the liberal bias of the places they live in.  Add the fact that many of the major media are inherently liberal and hire liberal journalists that reflect their partisanship( ie NY Times, Washington Post, NBC  CBS CNN ABC PBS), you get a huge bias in the reporting.  It's not a spoken conspiracy but rather one from DNA.
Here's a good article of this situation from a rather liberal organ of news. Politico.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/25/media-bubble-real-journalism-jobs-east-coast-215048

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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #783 on: September 06, 2019, 09:05:48 pm »

I find that explanation rather opaque.  It’s certainly terse. 

Could you explain a little more?
Groupthink!

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« Reply #784 on: September 06, 2019, 10:15:12 pm »

Another example of groupthink and bias to ignore the reality of things especially by the press who help push it and should know better.  Yet we continue to go down a road ignoring the reality of things as they are because of a preconceived belief.  Only data that proves the point will be highlighted in the media. 

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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #785 on: September 06, 2019, 11:30:13 pm »

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Peter McLennan "I find that explanation rather opaque.  It’s certainly terse. 
Could you explain a little more?"

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Groupthink!

So, even more terse, even more cryptic.

I take it you're refusing to elaborate.
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« Reply #786 on: September 06, 2019, 11:42:18 pm »

So, even more terse, even more cryptic.

I take it you're refusing to elaborate.
Maybe confirmation bias is a better choice.  Groupthink is not bad though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #788 on: September 07, 2019, 01:30:06 pm »

https://www.facebook.com/448623025347037/posts/1150553481820651?sfns=mo

Slobodan, Fake news, again? What was the date of that early CNN forecast chart, just after midnight on Thursday August 29th, right? The next position was plotted for 2 AM. When did Trump make his "sharpie gate " statement about Alabama, on Twitter 7:51 AM - 1 Sep 2019, right?

More than 3 days later, right? You probably know that that's an eternity in hurricane trajectory forecasting, and by then many updates had been issued regarding the most likely course it would follow. In fact, the 'spaghetti chart' that Trump later produced in an attempt to prove that he is not as stupid as he portraited himself to be, showed that the most likely path was already bowing North before the center reached Florida. Which makes him look even worse as commander in chief who stayed home to play golf manage a potential upcoming crisis. He just demonstrated that he is incompetent.

It started with what might have been a small error, but it turned into an obsessive demonstration of his incompetence, and more importantly the danger he poses to others when he is pointed out that he is wrong about something. It then becomes an all-consuming obsession. He is increasingly becoming a danger to himself and the USA, and the rest of the world.

 Hurricane Donald —
“Precious hours were wasted”: Trump’s doctored map affected hurricane forecasters
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/09/precious-hours-were-wasted-trumps-doctored-map-affected-hurricane-forecasters/
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On Wednesday, when President Donald Trump was showing off a doctored hurricane forecast in the White House Oval Office, forecasters at the National Hurricane Center were mortified.

It was a critical moment for the federal tropical cyclone experts because Hurricane Dorian had begun to show signs of re-intensifying—it would later become a major hurricane again—and its track appeared increasingly likely to bring the storm's center ashore somewhere in the Carolinas. Two sources in the Miami-based hurricane center told Ars that Trump's "update" on Hurricane Dorian effectively paralyzed operations.

After Trump spoke, the forecasters' cell phones buzzed with incessant distractions. Media briefings were stopped for the afternoon. "Precious hours were wasted," one official at the center told me. "We aren’t going to put out bad forecasts, but we need to keep the eye on the ball here."

‘He’s losing his s—‘: Trump’s advisers are increasingly worried about his mental state following days of erratic behavior
https://www.businessinsider.nl/trump-aides-worried-about-mental-state-alabama-hurricane-dorian-2019-9/

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‘He’s losing his s—‘: Trump’s advisers are increasingly worried about his mental state following days of erratic behavior
President Donald Trump’s aides and confidants are concerned about his mental state after days of erratic behavior and wild outbursts.
 -  “His mood changes from one minute to the next based on some headline or tweet, and the next thing you know his entire schedule gets tossed out the window because he’s losing his s—,” one former White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal conversations about the president, told Insider.
 -   Trump has spent the past several days fixated on his false claim over the weekend that Hurricane Dorian was going to hit Alabama. He has also lobbed attacks at his perceived enemies, like the actress Debra Messing, former FBI Director James Comey, and the “LameStream media.”
 -  “He’s deteriorating in plain sight,” one Republican strategist who is in frequent contact with the White House told Insider on Friday.
 -   But a person who was close to Trump’s legal team during the Russia investigation told Insider his public statements were “nothing compared to what he’s like behind closed doors.”
 -  “He’s like a bull seeing red,” this person added. “There’s just no getting through to him, and you can kiss your plans for the day goodbye because you’re basically stuck looking after a 4-year-old now.”

This is very troubling, indeed.
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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #789 on: September 07, 2019, 01:40:07 pm »

Slobodan, Fake news, again? What was the date of that early CNN forecast chart, just after midnight on Thursday August 29th, right? The next position was plotted for 2 AM. When did Trump make his "sharpie gate " statement about Alabama, on Twitter 7:51 AM - 1 Sep 2019, right?

More than 3 days later, right? You probably know that that's an eternity in hurricane trajectory forecasting, and by then many updates had been issued regarding the most likely course it would follow. In fact, the 'spaghetti chart' that Trump later produced in an attempt to prove that he is not as stupid as he portraited himself to be, showed that the most likely path was already bowing North before the center reached Florida. Which makes him look even worse as commander in chief who stayed home to play golf manage a potential upcoming crisis. He just demonstrated that he is incompetent.

It started with what might have been a small error, but it turned into an obsessive demonstration of his incompetence, and more importantly the danger he poses to others when he is pointed out that he is wrong about something. It then becomes an all-consuming obsession. He is increasingly becoming a danger to himself and the USA, and the rest of the world.

This is very troubling, indeed.

Indeed, the above Trump's character analysis matches with my personal observations. One day, some people will be blamed because they didn't remove him from the office in time.
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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #790 on: September 07, 2019, 01:55:55 pm »

Indeed, the above Trump's character analysis matches with my personal observations...

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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #791 on: September 07, 2019, 02:02:57 pm »

Slobodan, Fake news, again?...

More than 3 days later, right? ...

No, not fake news. We can argue about the significance of three days, path uncertainty, etc., but fake news it ain't. It is a live tv and they said Alabama and Mississippi, among others. That probably stuck in Trump's memory.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/noaa-contradicts-national-weather-service-trump-dorian-alabama.html

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« Reply #792 on: September 07, 2019, 02:10:20 pm »

No, not fake news. We can argue about the significance of three days, path uncertainty, etc., but fake news it ain't. It is a live tv and they said Alabama and Mississippi, among others. That probably stuck in Trump's memory.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/noaa-contradicts-national-weather-service-trump-dorian-alabama.html

Trumps always copies CNN... While he knows only FOX brings the real news!
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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #793 on: September 07, 2019, 02:27:54 pm »

Is it a coincidence that NOAA’s current director of communications previously worked on the Trump campaign?
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« Reply #794 on: September 07, 2019, 02:36:37 pm »

Good for you, Fab. I kept thinking this "discussion" couldn't get any sillier. I was wrong.
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« Reply #795 on: September 07, 2019, 02:39:25 pm »

Good for you, Fab. I kept thinking this "discussion" couldn't get any sillier. I was wrong.
I think the fact that it took Trump and his minions six days to get NOAA to issue this statement says a lot. Six days? Really?
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« Reply #796 on: September 07, 2019, 02:41:12 pm »

There you go again.  ;D :D ;D :D
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« Reply #797 on: September 07, 2019, 02:44:58 pm »

There you go again.  ;D :D ;D :D
Somebody has to keep the thread alive now that we have apparently solved the climate change issue.
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« Reply #798 on: September 07, 2019, 02:49:14 pm »

Well, at age N/A you probably don't know the history of that phrase.
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« Reply #799 on: September 07, 2019, 02:54:42 pm »

Well, at age N/A you probably don't know the history of that phrase.

The quote is so commonplace there is even a Wikipedia entry for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_you_go_again
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