How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science

[RSL]

The solution seems easy. Redirect some of that to environmental protection instead of defense spendings?

Cheers,
Bernard

Bernard, you'd better hope that those "defense spendings" continue, and if possible, increase. You're awful close to that nut in NK. I remember what it was like to be close to his grandfather. Not a lot of fun.

[Alan Klein]

Ok, at least we now agree about the very high degree of constraint that being a citizen already imposes on you regardless of environmental aspects.

The solution seems easy. Redirect some of that to environmental protection instead of defense spendings?

Cheers,
Bernard

We already spend huge amount for environment regulation.  I'd rather they cut taxes and spending for both it and defense and leave more money in my pocket.

[BernardLanguillier]

Bernard, you'd better hope that those "defense spendings" continue, and if possible, increase. You're awful close to that nut in NK. I remember what it was like to be close to his grandfather. Not a lot of fun.

The guy isn’t nut at all.

He has been offering his services to the US faithfully for years to justify the presence of military bases in Japan and Korea.

This is perfect win win deal enabling the US to keep those bases close to China and Russia.

North Korea poses zero threat to the security of Asia Pacific.

It’s a big play.

Cheers,
Bernard

[LesPalenik]

Yes they do.   Over half my income goes to taxes,  Federal, State, Locals, Property taxes, sales taxes, etc.  That has a major impact on the way people can live.  Both spouses have to work, or need second jobs, etc.  So adding carbon taxes for example will make it even harder to live.  Look at Germans who pay 2 1/2 times what I pay for electricity because of their renewable legislation.

That's true, and the gasoline prices are also about 2 to 2 1/2 times more expensive than in USA. But their health insurance is much lower and they get their hips and knees replaced for free.

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

We already spend huge amount for environment regulation.

It will only cost more because valuable time is lost if something is not done about it promptly.

But we divert from the subject of the thread...

Cheers,
Bart

[BernardLanguillier]

That's true, and the gasoline prices are also about 2 to 2 1/2 times more expensive than in USA. But their health insurance is much lower and they get their hips and knees replaced for free.

And their media appears to be giving a more balanced amount of air time to climatoseptic theories not backed up by proper science.

Btw, genuine question. How do you interpret the reason for the very different views in Europe vs the US about global warming?

Cheers,
Bernard

[Alan Klein]

That's true, and the gasoline prices are also about 2 to 2 1/2 times more expensive than in USA. But their health insurance is much lower and they get their hips and knees replaced for free.

Nothing's for free.  They pay for it with their VAT, fuel, and other taxes which are even higher than the US.

[Alan Klein]

It will only cost more because valuable time is lost if something is not done about it promptly.

But we divert from the subject of the thread...

Cheers,
Bart

Get the Chinese to join Paris with meaningful obligation to reduce CO2 before 2030 and Trump said he might go back into the Paris agreement. .  They're the biggest polluters and CO2 producers in the world.

[Alan Klein]

And their media appears to be giving a more balanced amount of air time to climatoseptic theories not backed up by proper science.

Btw, genuine question. How do you interpret the reason for the very different views in Europe vs the US about global warming?

Cheers,
Bernard

They're pussies.  They think personal freedoms are something foreign. They're personally afraid to stand up and fight for themselves, so they go along to get along.  They want something for nothing. 

[faberryman]

Get the Chinese to join Paris with meaningful obligation to reduce CO2 before 2030 and Trump said he might go back into the Paris agreement.  They're the biggest polluters and CO2 producers in the world.

I'm confused. Do you believe reducing carbon emissions will reduce global warming or not?

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

Get the Chinese to join Paris with meaningful obligation to reduce CO2 before 2030 and Trump said he might go back into the Paris agreement. .  They're the biggest polluters and CO2 producers in the world.

Last (July 2018 est.) count,  1,384,688,986 people .

Cheers,
Bart

[BernardLanguillier]

Get the Chinese to join Paris with meaningful obligation to reduce CO2 before 2030 and Trump said he might go back into the Paris agreement. .  They're the biggest polluters and CO2 producers in the world.

https://m.phys.org/news/2019-08-china-track-carbon-emissions-goals.html

Your orders we shall follow.

Cheers,
Bernard

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

...How do you interpret the reason for the very different views in Europe vs the US about global warming?

Easy. Europe mentality is  based on serfdom, US on freedoms.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

And yet you choose to live in a high tax state like New Jersey.

Alan, come to Florida... we'll go shoot together

[BernardLanguillier]

They're pussies.  They think personal freedoms are something foreign. They're personally afraid to stand up and fight for themselves, so they go along to get along.  They want something for nothing.

I cannot start to imagine the degree of depressed cynicism needed to come up with such an explanation.

Go and visit Europe Alan.

Talk to youngsters in their 20s and feel the energy, the hope.

Europe isn’t the old continent, just the opposite really.

Cheers,
Bernard

[Alan Klein]

I'm confused. Do you believe reducing carbon emissions will reduce global warming or not?

Maybe.

[RSL]

The guy isn’t nut at all.

He has been offering his services to the US faithfully for years to justify the presence of military bases in Japan and Korea.

This is perfect win win deal enabling the US to keep those bases close to China and Russia.

North Korea poses zero threat to the security of Asia Pacific.

It’s a big play.

Cheers,
Bernard

As the Duke of Wellington once told a woman: If you believe that, you will believe anything.

[Alan Klein]

Alan, come to Florida... we'll go shoot together

Actually my wife and I considered it.  But she can't really handle the heat.  So we moved to NJ where we pay higher state income taxes than we would have had we stayed in NY and of course a lot more if we moved to tax free Florida.  Actually, they just built the largest shooting range in the state nearby where I live.  When I told my wife I was going to buy a gun, she told me she'd shoot me first.  Like I posted earlier, I keep pointing to the 2nd Amendment.  But she told me she'd teach me a thing or two about it if I went ahead and bought a gun.  Hmmm.  I wonder what she meant by that?

[BernardLanguillier]

As the Duke of Wellington once told a woman: If you believe that, you will believe anything.

I am just looking at facts, not at what I am being told to think.

A different take on freedom perhaps?

Cheers,
Bernard

[Alan Klein]

I cannot start to imagine the degree of depressed cynicism needed to come up with such an explanation.

Go and visit Europe Alan.

Talk to youngsters in their 20s and feel the energy, the hope.

Europe isn’t the old continent, just the opposite really.

Cheers,
Bernard

Hope makes for a good breakfast but a lousy dinner. 

Youth unemployment rates for Europe.
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