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Alan Klein

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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #640 on: July 17, 2019, 06:11:12 pm »

Mexicans in Mexico agree with Trump.  Now that's a switch.  Wonder if we'll see this in the NYT or WP. 

"More than 6 in 10 Mexicans say migrants are a burden on their country because they take jobs and benefits that should belong to Mexicans. A 55 percent majority supports deporting migrants who travel through Mexico to reach the United States."
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/07/17/time-to-go-new-polling-shows-that-mexico-is-adopting-a-more-trumpian-outlook-on-n2550184

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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #641 on: July 17, 2019, 06:11:57 pm »

Show me one example if anyone telling Bernie Sanders to go back to where he came from.  If these four were white, that language never would have been used, period.

Show us an example where Bernie is saying any such nonsense like those four.
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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #642 on: July 17, 2019, 06:17:01 pm »

Mexicans in Mexico agree with Trump.  Now that's a switch.  Wonder if we'll see this in the NYT or WP. 

"More than 6 in 10 Mexicans say migrants are a burden on their country because they take jobs and benefits that should belong to Mexicans. A 55 percent majority supports deporting migrants who travel through Mexico to reach the United States."
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/07/17/time-to-go-new-polling-shows-that-mexico-is-adopting-a-more-trumpian-outlook-on-n2550184
In the article you linked to, Town Hall cites the report as first appearing in the Washington Post and provides a link to it.
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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #643 on: July 17, 2019, 06:18:01 pm »

Show us an example where Bernie is saying any such nonsense like those four.

You serious?
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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #644 on: July 17, 2019, 06:19:19 pm »

My point still stands, these women will get in the news but have zero power in the House right now.  Trump still maxes out at 40% of the electorate and his big hope is voter suppression and/or lack of interest from the majority of Americans who don't want to see him reelected.  If the voter turnout approaches 70% of the electorate next year, the election will not even be close.  Why do you think the Florida Legislature and Governor are working overtime to take the voting rights away from felons that the electorate gave to them last year?  If those folks get to vote, Florida flips like a pancake on a hot skillet.  If Florida flips, no chance for the President.

Republicans are committing the same blunder as Democrats by allowing a handful of climate deniers to spoil the Republican chances in the next election. Most young people would like to see a constructive and real efforts to reduce the emissions and pollution, and if the Republicans won't do anything in that direction, they will drive all young voters to Democrats. 
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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #645 on: July 17, 2019, 06:20:31 pm »

You serious?

A very serious outsider.
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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #646 on: July 17, 2019, 06:26:00 pm »

Republicans are committing the same blunder as Democrats by allowing a handful of climate deniers to spoil the Republican chances in the next election. Most young people would like to see a constructive and real efforts to reduce the emissions and pollution, and if the Republicans won't do anything in that direction, they will drive all young voters to Democrats. 
One of things Trump's supporters appreciate is that he sticks with his beliefs.  If he starts changing his viewpoints and positions like Biden and others do, he'll lose a lot of those people.  Having said that, his position on the Paris agreement is that if it could be changed and China and India  included to really do something, he'd go back to the table.  But he won;t do anything while they get a free ride.  Of course, that position is never covered in the liberal press.  So like most things about him, they hide anything that might be considered a good thing. 

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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #647 on: July 17, 2019, 06:29:49 pm »

In Canada, the young voters just started to mobilize about this very point.

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Several hundred Canadian millennials planned to rally in at least 30 cities across the country Wednesday, demanding a federal leaders' debate on climate change.

Emma Jackson, a field organizer with the group Our Time, said the science is clear that humanity only has 11 years to get a grip on greenhouse-gas emissions before global warming becomes catastrophic and irreversible.

Youths have traditionally been less likely to vote than in federal elections older citizens but in 2015, a surge in turnout among voters under age 35 is believed to have helped propel the Liberals into office, in part because of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's environment platform. Jackson said Our Time is not supporting any one party, but is trying to ensure that the momentum of engagement and environmental activism from 2015 isn't lost. "Part of the Our Time movement is rooted in the understanding that this federal election people between the ages of 18 and 35 have the potential to be the single largest voting bloc," she said. "That generation can really determine the outcome of this federal election."


https://www.timescolonist.com/younger-voters-mobilizing-to-make-federal-election-about-climate-change-1.23888283
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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #648 on: July 17, 2019, 06:31:15 pm »

Trump attacked the Squad for being unpatriotic not because they are people of color.  Of course, the democrats pull out the race card as they always do.  After all, according to them, a white person is a racist in America if they disagree with a person of color regardless of the issue.  It's really getting tiring. 

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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #649 on: July 17, 2019, 06:38:28 pm »

In Canada, the young voters just started to mobilize about this very point.
 

https://www.timescolonist.com/younger-voters-mobilizing-to-make-federal-election-about-climate-change-1.23888283
Those millennials should picket the Chinese and Indians delegations at the U.N. to make their point known.  They should insist  those two countries start reducing CO2 emissions now rather do nothing until 2030 as allowed by the Paris Agreement.  Hmmm, 2030 is 11 years from now.  It will be too late by them.  We'll be gone!!!

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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #650 on: July 17, 2019, 06:45:49 pm »

Those millennials should picket the Chinese and Indians delegations at the U.N. to make their point known.  They should insist  those two countries start reducing CO2 emissions now rather do nothing until 2030 as allowed by the Paris Agreement.  Hmmm, 2030 is 11 years from now.  It will be too late by them.  We'll be gone!!!

And don't forget all pigs and chickens in China and cows in India, producing a lot of methane.
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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #651 on: July 17, 2019, 06:50:03 pm »

And don't forget all pigs and chickens in China and cows in India, producing a lot of methane.
I'm not giving up my spare ribs.  Yum. 

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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #652 on: July 17, 2019, 06:54:53 pm »

And don't forget all pigs and chickens in China and cows in India, producing a lot of methane.

Indeed, and Alan K. wants to deny them to develop themselves and prosper and have airconditioning, or even have electricity to charge their smartphones ...

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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #653 on: July 17, 2019, 07:23:09 pm »

There were a number of Republican House members who were in the news until.................................................they lost the house last year.  Remember Devin Nunes?  He was in the news almost every day running back and forth to the White House with documents of one kind or another.  Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows are still in the news somewhat but they also have no power.  Mitch McConnell is in the news and was asked yesterday about if his wife faced the same language that the President used what his reaction would be.  Lindsey Graham called The Squad members communists the other day and he's always on TV.

My point still stands, these women will get in the news but have zero power in the House right now.  Trump still maxes out at 40% of the electorate and his big hope is voter suppression and/or lack of interest from the majority of Americans who don't want to see him reelected.  If the voter turnout approaches 70% of the electorate next year, the election will not even be close.  Why do you think the Florida Legislature and Governor are working overtime to take the voting rights away from felons that the electorate gave to them last year?  If those folks get to vote, Florida flips like a pancake on a hot skillet.  If Florida flips, no chance for the President.

I dont know if you're being contradictory on purpose or maybe I am misreading what you are saying. 

Basically, I am reading this as you saying, "yes, radical Republicans can cause losses for the party at elections, but that cant happen with Democrats." 
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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #654 on: July 17, 2019, 07:47:35 pm »

And don't forget all pigs and chickens in China and cows in India, producing a lot of methane.


And people too! It's just terrible.
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« Reply #655 on: July 17, 2019, 08:55:47 pm »

And people too! It's just terrible.

Actually, many billions more than the pigs.
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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #656 on: July 17, 2019, 09:15:39 pm »

Trump attacked the Squad for being unpatriotic not because they are people of color.  Of course, the democrats pull out the race card as they always do.  After all, according to them, a white person is a racist in America if they disagree with a person of color regardless of the issue.  It's really getting tiring.

What is also tiring is Trump calling people unpatriotic because they don't agree with him.
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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #657 on: July 17, 2019, 09:40:24 pm »

What is also tiring is Trump calling people unpatriotic because they don't agree with him.
Not the same.  The race card has been used by Democrats for 50 years.  Enough already.

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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #658 on: July 18, 2019, 04:36:56 am »

One of things Trump's supporters appreciate is that he sticks with his beliefs.  If he starts changing his viewpoints and positions like Biden and others do, he'll lose a lot of those people.  Having said that, his position on the Paris agreement is that if it could be changed and China and India  included to really do something, he'd go back to the table.  But he won;t do anything while they get a free ride.  Of course, that position is never covered in the liberal press.  So like most things about him, they hide anything that might be considered a good thing.


That logic is beautifully tragic. Shakespeare would have been proud of you, Alan, and incorporated the plot into a new play. Or at least, a sonnet.

So, unless two guys can't yet stop pouring water into the wallowing boat, neither should you?

Gimme a friggin' break man; use what God put inside your head!

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Re: Republicans and democrats don't understand each other
« Reply #659 on: July 18, 2019, 07:27:26 am »

Show us an example where Bernie is saying any such nonsense like those four.
Medicare for All is the best example!  Sanders has no clue what it would cost and has not addressed the vehement opposition from doctors and hospitals.  Current Medicare needs a legislative fix every now and then because it never fully accounted for doctors fees.
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