Republicans and democrats don't understand each other

[Alan Klein]

Eh! Say again. . .

Anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders is considered a conservative at the WP.

[LesPalenik]

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Alan,

did you know that instead of just deleting the text in the post, you can "Remove" that post entirely?

Les

[James Clark]

Anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders is considered a conservative at the WP.

This makes it crystal clear that you’ve never really paid attention to the WaPo columnists.  Parker and Gerson are center right.   Theissen is a blatant Trump apologist (Ed Rogers is almost as bad), Gary Abernathy thinks that “Real America” starts at the blue ridge mountains and ends somewhere around Colorado, and no one ever in the history of the world has accused George Will of being a leftist. 

[Alan Klein]

Alan,

did you know that instead of just deleting the text in the post, you can "Remove" that post entirely?

Les

No.  Thanks for the tip.  I meant to say edited, see next post. 

[Alan Klein]

This makes it crystal clear that you’ve never really paid attention to the WaPo columnists.  Parker and Gerson are center right.   Theissen is a blatant Trump apologist (Ed Rogers is almost as bad), Gary Abernathy thinks that “Real America” starts at the blue ridge mountains and ends somewhere around Colorado, and no one ever in the history of the world has accused George Will of being a leftist. 

I don;t usually read their op ed columnists.  In any case, I was referring to the news section which one would think should not be opinionated or biased.  Everyone on the other hand expects the op eds to be biased.  In any case, conservative op ed writers at the WP don't set policy of how news is published.  THat's up to the editor who push the paper toward presenting news in a liberal, Democrat, anti-Trump way.  Also, 90% of journalists are mainly liberal.  So that's how they write the news section. 

[RSL]

This makes it crystal clear that you’ve never really paid attention to the WaPo columnists.  Parker and Gerson are center right.   Theissen is a blatant Trump apologist (Ed Rogers is almost as bad), Gary Abernathy thinks that “Real America” starts at the blue ridge mountains and ends somewhere around Colorado, and no one ever in the history of the world has accused George Will of being a leftist.

Hi, James. I read a lot of stuff from the WaPo, and you're right. the paper has a couple conservative columnists. but Kathleen Parker isn't one of them. Which is sad. I remember when Kathleen was bouncing from newspaper to newspaper and was quite sensible. Once she joined the WaPo the sensibleness gradually vanished, though occasionally it still pops up.

And good old George is a conservative and a very good writer, but he lives in the heart of the establishment and is a devoted never-Trumper.

[Alan Klein]

(edit)  Both the NY Times and the Washington Post, the two most influential newspapers in the country that people around the world read or supply their articles to foreign newspapers, have only endorsed Democrats for president since 1980.  That's 10 elections in 36 years.
https://noahveltman.com/endorsements/

[Alan Klein]

Hi, James. I read a lot of stuff from the WaPo, and you're right. the paper has a couple conservative columnists. but Kathleen Parker isn't one of them. Which is sad. I remember when Kathleen was bouncing from newspaper to newspaper and was quite sensible. Once she joined the WaPo the sensibleness gradually vanished, though occasionally it still pops up.

And good old George is a conservative and a very good writer, but he lives in the heart of the establishment and is a devoted never-Trumper.

The anti-Trump, liberals, lefty cable stations like MSNBC and CNN have done similar things.  They've hired republicans and conservatives who don't like Trump and who have sold their souls for the dollar.  So they're taking strong positions against not only Trump but republicans and conservatism in general.  Then the cable stations try to present these people as if they're from the other side and providing a balanced view like the WP does.  But these people no longer take their original views.  Meanwhile the general news view is totally biased to the left.  Heck, if someone offered me a half a million, I become anti-Trump, pro Bernie Sanders too. 

[JoeKitchen]

Conservative Washington Post columnist, Kathleen Parker, has an interesting op-ed this morning.  She discusses the Tweet storm of the last several days against 'The Squad' and thinks that President Trump might be doing this as a sleight of hand distraction to keep attention from wandering to something he doesn't want people to think about.  Her theory is that the President wants to draw attention away from Jeffery Epstein who was recently arrested in New York.  Police recovered some interesting things in the safe of his apartment, including a fake passport and address in Saudi Arabia.

"The bogus passport opens a Pandora’s box of questions. Who knows what Epstein was up to? Who else might be implicated? All those diamonds and cash suggest that Epstein was prepared to leave suddenly.

Who knows? Somebody. Maybe several somebodies. But 2020 is a long way off — and anyone who was ever connected to Epstein must be sweating grenades about now."  writes Parker.

Personally I think it was a ruse to get Pelosi to defend the 4 Dems causing so much trouble. 

Recent polling showed that the majority of swing voters and independents do not like AOC and the other three.  This is why Pelosi felt it was okay to throw shade on them and single them out last week.  This was a good move to help the Dems in moderate districts, implying to independents that they are not the party of radicals.  Then Trump tweeted.  Now I am not condoning Trump's tweets, but he forced Pelosi to defend those four radicals, pretty much destroying the message she sent last week to independent voters. 

[Alan Goldhammer]

Personally I think it was a ruse to get Pelosi to defend the 4 Dems causing so much trouble. 

Recent polling showed that the majority of swing voters and independents do not like AOC and the other three.  This is why Pelosi felt it was okay to throw shade on them and single them out last week.  This was a good move to help the Dems in moderate districts, implying to independents that they are not the party of radicals.  Then Trump tweeted.  Now I am not condoning Trump's tweets, but he forced Pelosi to defend those four radicals, pretty much destroying the message she sent last week to independent voters.

there are 10 times as many wacko Republicans than members of The Squad.  These are the ones along with the President that the Dems ran against two years ago and it will make much more of difference than the marginal four who only have the power of Twitter and no significant power in the Congress at this point in time.  When you also start looking at some of the new abortion laws in the South passed mainly by older men, women are not terribly happy with the Republican party these days.  President Trump will always have his 40 percenters but can he pick up any more votes than that?  This is the question that the election will answer.

[RSL]

Are you kidding, Alan? These are four reasonably cute girls. Mostly because of that they’re getting fabulous press coverage, and they keep on rattling their heads in a very anti-American way. Poor Nancy had a facelift and, like Joe Biden with his facelift, was looking a lot younger when her “procedure” was complete. The past couple weeks have brought her face back to normal old-ladyism. The four really are looking like the committee to reelect the president. If they keep it up that’s exactly what’s gonna happen, and I doubt there's any way Nancy can stop it.

[JoeKitchen]

there are 10 times as many wacko Republicans than members of The Squad.  These are the ones along with the President that the Dems ran against two years ago and it will make much more of difference than the marginal four who only have the power of Twitter and no significant power in the Congress at this point in time.  When you also start looking at some of the new abortion laws in the South passed mainly by older men, women are not terribly happy with the Republican party these days.  President Trump will always have his 40 percenters but can he pick up any more votes than that?  This is the question that the election will answer.

No Alan, they have the power of the press, and the press just loves writing about them. 

Name me one wacko Republican that is getting as much air time as AOC or the others.  There isn't any.  I mean Hollywood even produced a documentary on AOC in her first year in congress.  Because of their immense press coverage they have become the face of the party.  Pelosi was trying to do the right thing last week calling them out, which was a move supported by polling of swing voters.  But Trump's tweets pretty much stopped her in her tracks, and now she is defending them. 

Like I said before, I am not condoning his tweets, only that instead of the leader showing that the Dems are not the party of radicals, she is now marketing the Dems as the party that embraces radicals. 

Insofar as the topic of abortion, although I am pro-choice, I can't ignore the polling on this either in how it effects my opinion of which party has the advantage.  Most Americans are against late term abortions.  I can't see how this helps the Dems considering some of the laws past up North.  Best case, the open for business late term abortion laws rile up the conservatives just as much as some of the oppressive down South abortion restrictions rile up progressives and cancel each other out.  Although I still feel the evangelicals are a lot more enthusiastic for pro-life then progressives are for being pro-choice. 

[LesPalenik]

Are you kidding, Alan? These are four reasonably cute girls. Mostly because of that they’re getting fabulous press coverage, and they keep on rattling their heads in a very anti-American way. Poor Nancy had a facelift and, like Joe Biden with his facelift, was looking a lot younger when her “procedure” was complete. The past couple weeks have brought her face back to normal old-ladyism.

The four really are looking like the committee to reelect the president. If they keep it up that’s exactly what’s gonna happen, and I doubt there's any way Nancy can stop it.

Very true, and a very poor strategy by Democrats.

[Rob C]

You guys are giving too much crefit to political strategists: mostly, they go from disaster management to disaster management. The whole sickening tribe, worldwide.

[RSL]

Yeah, I agree, Rob. The last presidential election is a classic example. But this hasn't anything to do with political strategists. It has to do with four completely unhinged girls. All I can do is watch and laugh. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

[Alan Klein]

Yeah, I agree, Rob. The last presidential election is a classic example. But this hasn't anything to do with political strategists. It has to do with four completely unhinged girls. All I can do is watch and laugh. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

Trump has said a lot of stuff that's controversial.  But it seems to be forgotten.  Maybe that's the new standard.  If so, people will forget about AOC and the rest of the squad. 

[PeterAit]

Suppose the "squad," with the same opinions and saying the same things, was a group of 4 white males. Would The Orange One be telling them to "go back where you came from?" Duh.

[LesPalenik]

Suppose the "squad," with the same opinions and saying the same things, was a group of 4 white males. Would The Orange One be telling them to "go back where you came from?" Duh.

I'm sure he would tell them the same thing. Females, males, and anything between.

[Alan Goldhammer]

No Alan, they have the power of the press, and the press just loves writing about them. 

Name me one wacko Republican that is getting as much air time as AOC or the others.  There isn't any.  I mean Hollywood even produced a documentary on AOC in her first year in congress.  Because of their immense press coverage they have become the face of the party.  Pelosi was trying to do the right thing last week calling them out, which was a move supported by polling of swing voters.  But Trump's tweets pretty much stopped her in her tracks, and now she is defending them. 

There were a number of Republican House members who were in the news until.................................................they lost the house last year.  Remember Devin Nunes?  He was in the news almost every day running back and forth to the White House with documents of one kind or another.  Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows are still in the news somewhat but they also have no power.  Mitch McConnell is in the news and was asked yesterday about if his wife faced the same language that the President used what his reaction would be.  Lindsey Graham called The Squad members communists the other day and he's always on TV.

My point still stands, these women will get in the news but have zero power in the House right now.  Trump still maxes out at 40% of the electorate and his big hope is voter suppression and/or lack of interest from the majority of Americans who don't want to see him reelected.  If the voter turnout approaches 70% of the electorate next year, the election will not even be close.  Why do you think the Florida Legislature and Governor are working overtime to take the voting rights away from felons that the electorate gave to them last year?  If those folks get to vote, Florida flips like a pancake on a hot skillet.  If Florida flips, no chance for the President.

[James Clark]

I think so. Females, males, anything between.

Show me one example if anyone telling Bernie Sanders to go back to where he came from.  If these four were white, that language never would have been used, period.