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Alan Klein

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1940 on: August 27, 2019, 08:38:29 am »

Also Post writers, Max Boot and Michael Gerson who have strong conservative bona fides and worked for prominent Republican politicians in the past.  Even the 'news' reporters on FOX (not the evening show people who are just opinion presenters as are the Fox & Friend group in the morning) voice criticism of Trump these days (of course they are on during the mid-morning and not prime time).
Traditional Republican supporters like the two you mentioned hate Trump, always have. They supported traditional Republican candidates like Bush. So the fact that they are against Trump now means absolutely nothing. Also Trump is not a conservative.  He spends like a drunken Democrat.

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« Reply #1941 on: August 27, 2019, 08:42:59 am »

Traditional Republican supporters like the two you mentioned hate Trump, always have. They supported traditional Republican candidates like Bush. So the fact that they are against Trump now means absolutely nothing. Also Trump is not a conservative.  He spends like a drunken Democrat.

Too bad that Republican administrations spend money like drunken Democrats too.
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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1942 on: August 27, 2019, 08:58:40 am »

Too bad that Republican administrations spend money like drunken Democrats too.

I'll shake on that one, Robert.
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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1943 on: August 27, 2019, 09:54:32 am »

Too bad that Republican administrations spend money like drunken Democrats too.
I agree.  When it comes to buying votes, both parties are just as guilty.  The Tea Party wing of the Republican party has very little power. 

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« Reply #1944 on: August 27, 2019, 11:13:30 am »

  The Tea Party wing of the Republican party has very little power.
They all voted for the budget busting tax cut bill that has done nothing to improve the economy.  They are just as big hypocrites as everyone else.
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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1945 on: August 27, 2019, 11:17:28 am »

They are just as big hypocrites as everyone else.

Translation: Democrats.
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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1946 on: August 27, 2019, 11:27:53 am »

I'm glad we all agree politicians are all full of it.  All the more reason to keep power away from them.  With socialism comes greedy politicians who all want power at our expense.  In the end, it's the people who suffer.   :)

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1947 on: August 27, 2019, 11:33:59 am »

Now if we can only figure out how to take the vote away from the people who demand all this free stuff. :)

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1948 on: August 27, 2019, 12:35:36 pm »

Also Post writers, Max Boot and Michael Gerson who have strong conservative bona fides and worked for prominent Republican politicians in the past...

How quickly we managed to sidetrack the debate from the open threat of political violence (purge) to ad hominem (their political leanings). Bravo!

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1949 on: August 27, 2019, 12:41:08 pm »

 I think this thread should be renamed The American Constipation. Jeremy do the decent thing and bring it to speedy end. :'(

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1950 on: August 27, 2019, 12:41:33 pm »

Delusions of adequacy again.

If you persist in making posts which consist only of personal insults, whether to me or any other member of the forum, I shall ban you again.

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1951 on: August 27, 2019, 12:42:46 pm »

I think this thread should be renamed The American Constipation. Jeremy do the decent thing and bring it to speedy end. :'(

I sympathise. You could always not read it. I wish I had that option.

Jeremy
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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1952 on: August 27, 2019, 12:57:00 pm »

How quickly we managed to sidetrack the debate from the open threat of political violence (purge) to ad hominem (their political leanings). Bravo!

My apologies - I didn't think you were seriously concerned about the supposed threat of political purges or violence from Jen Rubin :). If you want to have that discussion, by all means, let's do. It's just that liberals are painted as overreactive to stuff like Charlottesville, where, you know, actual white supremacists killed actual people, so I assumed that you couldn't possibly be worried about a couple of fellow-conservatives talking about how Trumpism is a hazard to the morality of their party.  What gives?
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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1953 on: August 27, 2019, 01:01:52 pm »

I sympathise. You could always not read it. I wish I had that option.

Jeremy

I this is correct then there would be no need for moderation. Everyone should just ignore the trolls?

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1954 on: August 27, 2019, 01:17:04 pm »

My apologies - I didn't think you were seriously concerned about the supposed threat of political purges or violence from Jen Rubin :). If you want to have that discussion, by all means, let's do. It's just that liberals are painted as overreactive to stuff like Charlottesville, where, you know, actual white supremacists killed actual people, so I assumed that you couldn't possibly be worried about a couple of fellow-conservatives talking about how Trumpism is a hazard to the morality of their party.  What gives?

What gives is the incredible difference in significance and reach. One is a columnist for a well respected (until-recently) national newspaper appearing on a national television and calling for a purge of half of the US voters. The other is an obscure, yet legal gathering by a fringe group that would have stayed obscure and peaceful had it not been amplified by media and attacked by a liberal mob.

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1955 on: August 27, 2019, 01:41:42 pm »

What gives is the incredible difference in significance and reach. One is a columnist for a well respected (until-recently) national newspaper appearing on a national television and calling for a purge of half of the US voters.

Nah - at worst she's just suggesting that we send the remaining Trumpers out there "back to where they came from" or whatever.  Probably just means vote against 'em, get them out of government, whatever.  That's normal these days, and totally no cause for alarm, or so I've heard. Why would you assume anything worse??
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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1956 on: August 27, 2019, 01:51:38 pm »

You two Jeremies, either get a room or I'll report you to the moderator for exchange of personal insults ;)

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1957 on: August 27, 2019, 02:00:45 pm »

You two Jeremies, either get a room or I'll report you to the moderator for exchange of personal insults ;)

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1958 on: August 27, 2019, 02:23:13 pm »

You two Jeremies, either get a room or I'll report you to the moderator for exchange of personal insults ;)

I'll be suspending myself for ten days or so next month. I could serve a ban then, I suppose.

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1959 on: August 27, 2019, 02:27:42 pm »

I this is correct then there would be no need for moderation. Everyone should just ignore the trolls?

That's not quite what I meant. I read it to police behaviour, which means putting up with the stunningly boring rubbish that so many people write. I don't ignore the trolls.

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