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jeremyrh

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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1920 on: August 26, 2019, 01:17:16 pm »

Tell that to Luciana Berger MP, hounded out of the party by antisemites while pregnant.

Tell it to Dame Louise Ellman MP or Dame Margaret Hodge MP.

Tell it to Tom Watson MP, deputy leader of the party.

Tell it to Lord Triesman, Lord Darzi and Lord Turnberg.

The only part of my comment that even might be "simply not true" is the suggestion that the leader finds himself in association with unsavoury antisemites by bad luck.

Jeremy

More rubbish. None of those anecdotes - even if they were true - add up to  "institutional anti-semitism".  The most surprising is Lord Darzi, who is Armenian, and yet Corbyn was the author of the Commons motion which recognised the Armenian genocide.
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« Reply #1921 on: August 26, 2019, 01:25:47 pm »

It is relevant.   They're specifically picking on American companies profits to tax extra Who cares where the sales come from? So America will do the same to their companies.  Why is Macron being a bully.?  😉


Macron a bully because he wants to impose sales taxes in his own country? You mean the way Trump imposes import duties?

And how is he specifically targeting American companies?
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« Reply #1922 on: August 26, 2019, 01:28:57 pm »

Robert, you are using two much online real estate for two sentences. Save the planet, please.

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« Reply #1923 on: August 26, 2019, 01:50:39 pm »

Robert, you are using two much online real estate for two sentences. Save the planet, please.

Oops, that was careless, fixed now.
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« Reply #1924 on: August 26, 2019, 02:54:30 pm »

More rubbish. None of those anecdotes - even if they were true - add up to  "institutional anti-semitism".  The most surprising is Lord Darzi, who is Armenian, and yet Corbyn was the author of the Commons motion which recognised the Armenian genocide.

Your comment reveals much. Lord Darzi is British.

Jeremy
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« Reply #1925 on: August 26, 2019, 03:01:43 pm »

Your comment reveals much. Lord Darzi is British.

Jeremy

Still doing that "mind reading" correspondence course, then?
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Re: The American Constitution
« Reply #1926 on: August 26, 2019, 03:29:56 pm »

Choice quote of the day from President Trump, "“I also say that, by the way, with respect to North Korea, Kim Jong Un — who I’ve gotten to know extremely well; the first lady had gotten to know Kim Jong Un, and I think she’d agree with me — he is a man with a country that has tremendous potential,”

White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham issued a statement soon after noting that the first lady has never met Kim.

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« Reply #1927 on: August 26, 2019, 04:39:40 pm »

I conclude this section is really not worth trying to stick with anymore.

It seems to rotate around the pronouncements of the most unstable personality in the political world. In essence, one side laps it all up, whereas the other side wastes its time trying to point out the flaws. How can anything positive come out of such conversations? It can't.

:-(

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« Reply #1928 on: August 26, 2019, 05:09:57 pm »


Macron a bully because he wants to impose sales taxes in his own country? You mean the way Trump imposes import duties?

And how is he specifically targeting American companies?
Well, if you can call Trump a bully for imposing tariffs in our own country, then I can call Macron a bully for imposing taxes in his country.  I was being ironic.  I guess it didn't get through.  :) 

In any case, since American companies are the largest tech companies there, most of the tax would be paid by American companies.  That's how they were targeted.  In any case,  Trump and Macron apparently worked out a deal about the tax.
https://techcrunch.com/2019/08/26/us-and-france-reach-a-compromise-on-frances-tax-on-tech-giants/

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« Reply #1929 on: August 26, 2019, 05:39:54 pm »

Get ready for the purge and pogrom:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-republican-party-2020-burn-down

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Rubin appeared on MSNBC's "AM Joy" Sunday and said that not only does Trump have to lose in 2020, but there must be a purging of "survivors" who still support the commander-in-chief.

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« Reply #1930 on: August 26, 2019, 06:39:09 pm »

Get ready for the purge and pogrom:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-republican-party-2020-burn-down

What do you expect from MSNBC, The Washington Post and the rest of the liberal press. They talk "kindness" and "care" but would cut your throat out in a New York minute to get their way.

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« Reply #1931 on: August 26, 2019, 06:47:29 pm »

What do you expect from MSNBC, The Washington Post and the rest of the liberal press. They talk "kindness" and "care" but would cut your throat out in a New York minute to get their way.

Jen Rubin is no liberal, even iff she is kind of a lightweight.  She just knows Trump is a disaster.  You should check out some of Tom Nichols stuff sometime.  Also not liberal.
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« Reply #1932 on: August 26, 2019, 06:57:37 pm »

Jen Rubin is no liberal...

And that justifies the talk of purge how? What exactly is the point of your defense?

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« Reply #1933 on: August 26, 2019, 06:57:52 pm »

Jen Rubin is no liberal, even iff she is kind of a lightweight.  She just knows Trump is a disaster.  You should check out some of Tom Nichols stuff sometime.  Also not liberal.
I've watched Rubin a few times.  Her vile and bile against Trump are over the top.  Her anti Trump and liberal leanings are the reasons she's continuously on liberal cable stations.  She's their champion.  Whatever was before is no longer true about her. 

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« Reply #1934 on: August 26, 2019, 07:06:04 pm »

I think part of the problem is that since Trump and the explosion of cable news, personalities have figured out they can make a lot of money being a "talking head" on TV.  They were unknown before.  Now they are famous,  and rich.  So they sell their souls for the almighty dollar and talk the company line of the station who's paying them.  The more hysterical their comments, the more famous and rich they become.  It also bleeds over to their regular job - The Washington Post in her case.   This bleeding affects the skepticism of readers of the paper.  The NY Times has become so concerned about this, they've asked their columnists to restrain themselves when they appear on cable news and don;t appear too often.

Maybe this post belongs in the "media skeptic" thread.  It fits there better. 

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« Reply #1935 on: August 26, 2019, 10:56:34 pm »

... Trump is a disaster...

Yes, muy bad hombre!

https://www.foxnews.com/media/duke-professor-compares-destructive-trump-to-hitler-stalin-and-mao-during-cnn-interview

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Trump is as destructive a person in this century, as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were in the last century," he said. "He may be responsible for many more million deaths than they were.

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« Reply #1936 on: August 27, 2019, 03:21:16 am »

Still doing that "mind reading" correspondence course, then?

No need, old chap. Your posts here make your mind an open book.

Jeremy
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« Reply #1937 on: August 27, 2019, 07:12:11 am »

No need, old chap. Your posts here make your mind an open book.

Jeremy

Delusions of adequacy again.
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« Reply #1938 on: August 27, 2019, 07:25:27 am »

Jen Rubin is no liberal, even iff she is kind of a lightweight.  She just knows Trump is a disaster.  You should check out some of Tom Nichols stuff sometime.  Also not liberal.
Also Post writers, Max Boot and Michael Gerson who have strong conservative bona fides and worked for prominent Republican politicians in the past.  Even the 'news' reporters on FOX (not the evening show people who are just opinion presenters as are the Fox & Friend group in the morning) voice criticism of Trump these days (of course they are on during the mid-morning and not prime time).
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« Reply #1939 on: August 27, 2019, 08:08:34 am »

Okay, Alan. Name me a president who didn't attract criticism. Here are two things about Trump that are going to give him another four years in office if he wants them -- and who knows, he may not: (1) His policies have recovered the economy from the doldrums Obama's policies put it into, and (2) the people running against the man are all obviously insane. The main reason he won his last election was because Hillary was such a loser. What goes around, comes around, and the Dem lineup is coming around again.
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