The American Constitution

[LesPalenik]

Weekly Shooting Summary as reported by Reuters:

Between gun massacres, a routine, deadly seven days of U.S. shootings

A boy accidentally killed by his father during a fishing trip in Montana.
A woman dead and her husband behind bars after a single gunshot in a Dallas hotel room.
During a week bookended by mass shootings that killed 34 people, hundreds of others were shot to death across 47 U.S. states.

The deaths were the sort of everyday murders, suicides and accidents that may not grab the headlines of mass shootings, but in many ways show the true toll of the gun violence endemic to the United States.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shooting-insight/between-gun-massacres-a-routine-deadly-seven-days-of-u-s-shootings-idUSKCN1V10A3

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089

"Ten charts on the rise of knife crime in England and Wales"

[Robert Roaldi]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089

"Ten charts on the rise of knife crime in England and Wales"

Good thing they don't have guns then, isn't it. 

[kers]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089

"Ten charts on the rise of knife crime in England and Wales"

sharp apples and dead pears
- as you know only 100 years ago they correlated temp - skin colour - rainfall and IQ.
Your figures would be accepted then as logical, not anymore.
US accidental death correlated with GB knife crime??

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

...US accidental death correlated with GB knife crime?i

Did I mention correlation? My post followed Les’ post, in which he commingled gun accidents, mass shootings, murders, crime committed with guns. So my answer addressed two unrelated issues mentioned by Les: that crime can be and is committed with something else if guns not available (e.g., knives in the U.K.) and, second, that gun accidents are a minuscule occurrence relative to other accidents. You are 10-20x more likely to die from a bathroom fall* than from a gun accident, for instance. Then again, no media will report your fall.

* a.k.a. bathtub violence

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Who says Epstein was not on a suicide watch?

[LesPalenik]

ACCIDENTAL DEATH RATES

Quite insightful statistics, Slobodan
Surprising that poisoning is on the 2nd place, compared with gun deaths on 16th place (almost 30 times more people killed by poison than by bullets.
Poisoning will include all kinds of substances - drugs, alcohol, chemicals, wrong meds, deadly mushrooms, poisonous plants, snakes, and even expired food items from the supermarket.     

[Alan Klein]

Quite insightful statistics, Slobodan
Surprising that poisoning is on the 2nd place, compared with gun deaths on 16th place (almost 30 times more people killed by poison than by bullets.
Poisoning will include all kinds of substances - drugs, alcohol, chemicals, wrong meds, deadly mushrooms, poisonous plants, snakes, and even expired food items from the supermarket.     

You missed my cousin's cooking.

[LesPalenik]

You missed my cousin's cooking.

 
Alan,
half of your posts should be posted to the Humour thread.

[Alan Klein]

Yours are pretty satirical too., Les. 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

...even expired food items from the supermarket.     

So many salad and veggie recalls. Not a single bacon recall 

[LesPalenik]

So many salad and veggie recalls. Not a single bacon recall 

Bacon seems to be quite safe - that is, when it comes to recalls. But many other meat and poultry products were recalled for Listeria this year.

More than 3,300 pounds of ready-to-eat meat and poultry products, ranging from roast beef wraps to chicken salads, are being recalled from retail locations in Texas because the FDA found Listeria monocytogenes

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2019/04/meat-and-poultry-wrap-salad-products-recalled-for-listeria-in-facility/

In Canada, we hear about 10-15 food recalls a month, mostly for cheese, yogurts and ice cream.  But also for meat - even for bison and fish products.

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/about-the-cfia/newsroom/food-recall-warnings/complete-listing/eng/1351519587174/1351519588221?ay=2019&fr=0&fc=0&fd=0&ft=1

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

Quite insightful statistics, Slobodan
Surprising that poisoning is on the 2nd place, compared with gun deaths on 16th place (almost 30 times more people killed by poison than by bullets.
Poisoning will include all kinds of substances - drugs, alcohol, chemicals, wrong meds, deadly mushrooms, poisonous plants, snakes, and even expired food items from the supermarket.   

Yes, interesting. Not that that reduces the largely avoidable suffering (and deaths) from gun violence.

And Slobodan missed another important statistic, most people die in bed ...

Cheers,
Bart

[amolitor]

Nuclear bombs are not really that bad when you think about it.

I mean, sure, a million people "get killed", but when you break it down it's only 50,000 or so from the actual blast.

Maybe 200,000 from heat, which, you know, lots of things are hot. Fire is hot. The Sun is hot. Do you hate the Sun or something? Then like 400,000 from beta radiation, which also cures cancer, so. You're against cancer, right? My dad died of cancer so don't even GO THERE.

And then like 350,000 die later on SUPPOSEDLY from the bomb, but who really knows, right? I mean, the fake left-wing media just makes up so much stuff, who can really be sure. Here's the a youtube video from a respected guy that suggests that those 350,000 people didn't even exist.

So really it's just 50,000 people and that many people can die from a few conventional bombs ANYWAYS, and anyways donuts kill more people than that in a few days.

Nuclear bombs are actually good.

[Alan Goldhammer]

There have been pork and beef recalls.  there is also this story where tragedy was narrowly averted:  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/04/health/pork-antibiotic-resistance-salmonella.html

[LesPalenik]

There have been pork and beef recalls.  there is also this story where tragedy was narrowly averted:  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/04/health/pork-antibiotic-resistance-salmonella.html

Alan,

thanks for the link, it is a quite alarming article.
To entice also others to read it, here are some of the findings in the article:

There are 2,500 different types of salmonella. The one that infected Mikayla is called 4,5,12:i-minus. It first showed up in the late 1980s in Portugal, and then in Spain, Thailand, Taiwan, Switzerland and Italy. In the United States, infections it causes have risen 35 percent over the past decade, while the overall rate of salmonella infections has stayed constant.

The strain typically resists four major antibiotics: ampicillin, streptomycin, sulfisoxazole and tetracycline.

Environmental Working Group, a research organization, found that 71 percent of pork chops at supermarkets in the United States carried resistant bacteria, second only to ground turkey, at 79 percent.

If it is in the pork chops, most likely it can be found also in bacon.

[Alan Klein]

Alan,

thanks for the link, it is a quite alarming article.
To entice also others to read it, here are some of the findings in the article:

If it is in the pork chops, most likely it can be found also in bacon.

I'll stick with steak and lamb chops.

[Alan Goldhammer]

I'll stick with steak and lamb chops.

Most beef comes from feedlot fattened cattle who have a lot of antibiotics in their diet so I would not say that it's any safer.  If the lamb chops come from pasture raised sheep, chances of microbial contamination are reduced (but not zero).  Pork is the biggest offender because of the move to the big "factory" farms.

[faberryman]

I'll stick with steak and lamb chops.

Aiming for another heart surgery?

[LesPalenik]

Aiming for another heart surgery?

How does it work in USA? Do you get discount on the second surgery?