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Petrus

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What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« on: April 12, 2019, 03:22:55 am »

Does anybody have any idea what Geo Magazine headquartered in Germany is paying for large photo reportages (4-5 spreads of pictures & text).
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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2019, 08:47:17 am »

Why not just ask the magazine?
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Slobodan Blagojevic

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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2019, 08:50:09 am »

Why not just ask the magazine?

A fine example of a smart-ass help 😞

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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2019, 12:11:00 pm »

A fine example of a smart-ass help 😞

So, then why don't you do better and answer the question?

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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2019, 12:37:17 pm »

So, then why don't you do better and answer the question?

Because if I do not know the answer, I keep my mouth shut.

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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2019, 12:46:20 pm »

At least in the past magazines like NG did publish their daily/page rates for assignments, and they were GOOD (I mean like 30 years ago). Now not so good anymore. So I was hoping somebody would have some sort of idea what to expect or ask without being a fool in either way.

It does not work "how much are you prepared to pay?" but "I want XXXX euros". I need to make the opening bid. Getting in the approximate ballpark would be helpful. If somebody actually knows PM would work also if not wanting to go public.
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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2019, 12:57:30 pm »

Ballpark? I reckon $2,000.
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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2019, 06:32:57 pm »

I wrote and photographed articles for several familiar North American magazines for years.  The "ballpark" figure of $2,000 is accurate.
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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2019, 09:14:33 pm »

A fine example of a smart-ass help 😞

Tell me what is smart ass about that answer. Do you believe a bunch of anonymous people on the net or the horse's  mouth?

Seems to me your quick response is the smart-ass here.
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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2019, 09:15:44 pm »

Because if I do not know the answer, I keep my mouth shut.

Well it seems like you don't know the answer and your mouth is flapping away. Take a bit of your own advice and STFU.
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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2019, 11:52:12 am »

...Do you believe a bunch of anonymous people on the net or the horse's  mouth?...

Anyone who has ever participated in any negotiations would say that coming prepared, knowing what to expect, is rather beneficial, if not crucial. Hence the OP question is a reasonable one.

As for "anonymous," many of us here are not. Many of us here have been published. So it is perfectly reasonable to ask for advice.

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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2019, 11:56:43 am »

At least in the past magazines like NG did publish their daily/page rates for assignments, and they were GOOD (I mean like 30 years ago). Now not so good anymore...

My single images, published in photographic magazines a couple of years ago (not in NG though), would range from $150 to $250, up to $650 for a cover. Some of my friends, who used to shoot for major architectural magazines, would get a couple of thousands years ago, but barely under a thousand these days.

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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2019, 11:58:38 am »

Well it seems like you don't know the answer and your mouth is flapping away. Take a bit of your own advice and STFU.

And the "F" stands for...?

It seems you are just as eloquent and gracious as you are helpful.

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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2019, 12:54:13 pm »

At least in the past magazines like NG did publish their daily/page rates for assignments, and they were GOOD (I mean like 30 years ago). Now not so good anymore. So I was hoping somebody would have some sort of idea what to expect or ask without being a fool in either way.
Petrus,
Forty-three years ago (1976) when I was still in school and almost 21, I did my very first illustration for McCall's magazine. It was an double page spread for a short story and I was paid $2,000. I thought I was dreaming and so it went for years, and then in  1987 a "slight" economic correction changed all the rules. No more double page spreads and rate cuts went across the industry. As the years went on all magazine rates became impossible to justify, so the paperback cover industry became my game...That paid very well for quite awhile. With the late 90's the illustration world that I wanted to work in was all but gone. Thankfully I saw this coming, and I evolved. I started doing landscapes as solutions for many a paperback...I got paid to learn a new genre and weened myself away form the industry.

In 2000 I started to paint, show, sell and teach. The work I do is on my terms and I should have done this much earlier.
Doing what one likes is a wonderful gift, of which I am very grateful.

Peter
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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2019, 02:35:40 pm »

Petrus,
Forty-three years ago (1976) when I was still in school and almost 21, I did my very first illustration for McCall's magazine. It was an double page spread for a short story and I was paid $2,000.

I retired almost 2 years ago after 40 years in business, first freelancing during the college, then staff position in a national newspaper, 3 years of great freelancing (early eighties), then almost 35 years in the nationally leading weekly news magazine. Looking back it looks like the best possible time to work in photo journalism. It was all downhill during the last 10 years (except the gear...), less freedom, more (pointless) work. I got out just in time, the photo department which was 25 people strong 5 years ago is now cut to 7 or so. My pension is 30% better than the union pay new photographers (if any) are getting. This Geo deal, if it comes through, is more a hobby, so I need not give my pictures for free for publicity, and not really needing the money means I can just walk away instead of adding to the problems present day photographers are facing.
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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2019, 12:28:08 am »

Good overview how various magazines pay for photos or reportage (images+text):

https://www.format.com/magazine/resources/photography/who-pays-photographers-jobs

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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2019, 05:15:42 pm »

Good overview how various magazines pay for photos or reportage (images+text):

https://www.format.com/magazine/resources/photography/who-pays-photographers-jobs


Boy, have things got tight!

Rob

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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2019, 05:26:56 pm »


Boy, have things got tight!

Rob

The talent now subsidizes the publisher...how nice! It's all vanity press.

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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2019, 03:26:04 am »

As my agent used to say when confronted by such derisory payments, "you also want to fuck my wife?"
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Re: What is Geo Magazine paying for pictures & articles?
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2019, 04:01:10 am »

As my agent used to say when confronted by such derisory payments, "you also want to fuck my wife?"

I like your agent at once!

;-)
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