Well, I wanted to upgrade to the new version 12, but it appears that my Early 2008 MacPro, stuck in El Capitan, won't run it. I knew it was getting time to upgrade soon, but this kinda clinches it. Since the new MacPro is still over the horizon, I'd be interested to learn if anyone is using the new COP12 on a new Mac Mini (2018), and of course, how it's performing. I may wait for the new MacPro anyway, but I suspect it's going to be outta my price range, and if the Mac Mini works - why bother. And no, I don't want an iMac or MacBook Pro. I have a beautifully calibrated new NEC monitor, keyboard, and all the other accessories. I just need the computer, therefore the Mac Mini or MacPro interest.