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The Bench
« on: November 25, 2018, 03:21:30 pm »

Enough for now. Perhaps that'll help make LuLa look less ignorant of what the street genre really means.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2018, 05:30:15 pm »

Enough for now. Perhaps that'll help make LuLa look less ignorant of what the street genre really means.

The half of what you have been dumping the last hours is  mediocre. And that is not a problem or something to be ashamed of, only you should not consider yourself as a street photographer reference, because you aren’t.

If only you could leave out the know-it-all, I would be happy to cheer your attempts.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2018, 05:41:55 pm »

Ivo, if you actually could photograph even close to competently I'd be concerned about your opinion, but I don't really need to dwell on the subject. Everybody on LuLa can see your photographic shortcomings, so I'll leave it alone.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2018, 12:51:51 am »

Ivo, if you actually could photograph even close to competently I'd be concerned about your opinion, but I don't really need to dwell on the subject. Everybody on LuLa can see your photographic shortcomings, so I'll leave it alone.


Ad verecundiam  and Argumentum ad populum in one.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2018, 07:19:29 am »

Ivo, if you actually could photograph even close to competently I'd be concerned about your opinion, but I don't really need to dwell on the subject. Everybody on LuLa can see your photographic shortcomings, so I'll leave it alone.
Claiming that Ivo's photography has "shortcomings" doesn't do anything to improve the quality of the so-called street photographs you have recently posted. Casting stones while living in a glass house is generally not a winning strategy.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2018, 08:05:31 am »

Thanks, Fab. But since Michael left us, Stamper has been the only poster on LuLa who's demonstrated serious familiarity with street and is able to be a believable critic. You certainly don't fall into that category. Keith does some very praiseworthy work, but it isn't street, and he's made clear he he's not interested in doing street. Ivo is a very loud critic, but when it's clear you have no knowledge of the subject you're trying to criticize it's pretty hard to be a believable critic.
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2018, 09:13:14 am »

Thanks, Fab. But since Michael left us, Stamper has been the only poster on LuLa who's demonstrated serious familiarity with street and is able to be a believable critic. You certainly don't fall into that category. Keith does some very praiseworthy work, but it isn't street, and he's made clear he he's not interested in doing street. Ivo is a very loud critic, but when it's clear you have no knowledge of the subject you're trying to criticize it's pretty hard to be a believable critic.

My knowledge about the subject is beyond your understanding, Russ.  I was where you are.

Another point of view is a shortcoming in your terminology. I do not accept that and I will continue challenging your negative and arrogant attitude.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2018, 09:24:13 am »

Ivo, you’ve made your “understanding” of the subject very clear with your photographs and your comments. I don’t need to beat that drum. Everybody with eyes to see understands your “understanding.”

But how about explaining this “shortcoming in [my] terminology” that you don’t “accept?” I ask this question realizing you’ll never even attempt to answer it.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2018, 09:42:58 am »

Russ and I can find many topics to disagree on, but about the photographic genre known as "Street," I must say that Russ is absolutely correct.
There are terms in wide use in (Painting) Art history (pointillism, for instance) whose definitions are well-accepted. Dabbing some paint on a canvas and drawing a "point" doesn't make it an example of "Pointillism."

Russ is right that Stamper regularly produces images that rightfully belong to the Street genre.

Here is one of my own photos of a piece of street. No, it certainly doesn't belong to the Street genre.

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2018, 10:06:23 am »

Usually, one catches more flies with honey than vinegar.

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2018, 10:20:24 am »

Usually, one catches more flies with honey than vinegar.
Which is fine if you are  interested in catching flies.

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2018, 10:23:50 am »

Usually, one catches more flies with honey than vinegar.

You catch even more if you're a Venus Flytrap or a length of flypaper. Be my guest. Catch lots of flies if that's what turns you on.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2018, 10:24:47 am »

Russ and I can find many topics to disagree on, but about the photographic genre known as "Street," I must say that Russ is absolutely correct.
There are terms in wide use in (Painting) Art history (pointillism, for instance) whose definitions are well-accepted. Dabbing some paint on a canvas and drawing a "point" doesn't make it an example of "Pointillism."

Russ is right that Stamper regularly produces images that rightfully belong to the Street genre.

Here is one of my own photos of a piece of street. No, it certainly doesn't belong to the Street genre.

-Eric

Thanks, Eric.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2018, 10:30:22 am »

Everybody with eyes to see understands your “understanding.”



Correct.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2018, 10:33:47 am »

Glad to see that you admit it, Ivo.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2018, 10:34:39 am »

Glad to see that you admit it, Ivo.

I would never scoff your blindness, Russ.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2018, 10:38:06 am »

And, as usual, you haven't answered this:

"But how about explaining this “shortcoming in [my] terminology” that you don’t “accept?” I ask this question realizing you’ll never even attempt to answer it."
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2018, 10:56:06 am »

Which is fine if you are  interested in catching flies.

That’s a cutesy comeback, but other than that, it is inane. The true meaning of that saying has nothing to do with flies, as I am sure you already know.

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2018, 10:58:35 am »

And, as usual, you haven't answered this:

"But how about explaining this “shortcoming in [my] terminology” that you don’t “accept?” I ask this question realizing you’ll never even attempt to answer it."

I’m not in to your fallacies. That is why.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2018, 11:02:11 am »

In other words you'll blurt out something like “shortcoming in [my] terminology” that you don’t “accept." but you don't really mean anything when you say something like that. It's just noise. You haven't a clue what it means.
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