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Car and Ghosts
« on: November 25, 2018, 11:12:18 am »

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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2018, 01:49:26 pm »

Good one.

And it (superficially) reminds me of this one of mine:
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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2018, 02:26:07 pm »

And it (superficially) reminds me of this one of mine:

I like it very much, Eric.
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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2018, 06:27:31 pm »

Thanks, Keith.
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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2018, 04:32:48 pm »

Russ's is nice, although the positioning of the car in the frame makes me uncomfortable. Eric's, I prefer.

Jeremy
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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2018, 05:02:25 pm »

Russ's is nice, although the positioning of the car in the frame makes me uncomfortable. Eric's, I prefer.
Is the car being there supposed to mean something. Seems like a distraction to me.

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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2018, 05:10:32 pm »

Russ's is nice, although the positioning of the car in the frame makes me uncomfortable. Eric's, I prefer.

Jeremy
I didn't mean to compete with Russ, but after all, sex sells.   :D
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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2018, 05:12:02 pm »

Is the car being there supposed to mean something. Seems like a distraction to me.

“When I use a word car,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2018, 05:17:48 pm »

No friggin' wonder WP exist.

What an invidious display of attitudes; the new reality. Let's see some positive thinking here!

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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2018, 07:45:48 pm »

Russ's is nice, although the positioning of the car in the frame makes me uncomfortable. Eric's, I prefer.

Jeremy

The car is supposed to make you uncomfortable, Jeremy. It's the effect of ambiguity.

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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2018, 03:28:51 am »

The car is supposed to make you uncomfortable, Jeremy. It's the effect of ambiguity.

It's not its presence that I dislike, Russ, it's the fact that it feels to me to be too far to the left in the frame.

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2018, 05:14:14 am »

It's not its presence that I dislike, Russ, it's the fact that it feels to me to be too far to the left in the frame.

Jeremy

Artistic license to support the narrative. They probably don't have a parkingproblem in front of that building, which might be a very, very efficient selfstorage location, true to its name.

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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2018, 08:06:24 am »

Short of breaking into the vehicle and moving it, little the photographer can do about it. I'd prefer to look upon it from the perspective of better having lived and lost than never having loved at all.

Just read a Spanish newspaper report about the death of Bernardo Bertolucci; he's quoted as having proclaimed that anything you do through a lens is voyeurism. I kinda agree with him, which accounts for one's choice of models... I have always countered accusations about this business with the risposte that it is not inevitably about wanting to bed them.

There's a massive difference in concept, and it avoids self-destruction and probable divorce, not to mention the inevitable disappointment after the fact. Why do we need to prove to ourselves, over and over again, that beauty is but skin-deep?

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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2018, 08:12:57 am »

Russ's is nice, although the positioning of the car in the frame makes me uncomfortable. Eric's, I prefer.

Jeremy

Actually, I did it that way to bug you, Jeremy.

One way to solve the problem would be to crop. Heaven forfend!

I like Eric's version very much, mainly because of the texture in that wall.

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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2018, 08:28:19 am »

Short of breaking into the vehicle and moving it, little the photographer can do about it. I'd prefer to look upon it from the perspective of better having lived and lost than never having loved at all.

This whole thread brings up two intriguing questions:
1) can puzzle images really be considered exponents of street genre?
2) if a photographer decides to fill a significant portion of a frame with an element, can that element really be dismissed as only vaguely relevant to the expression?

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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2018, 08:46:27 am »

Both are fair questions, Oscar.

To #1 I’d have to answer: “Maybe, but not very powerful exponents.” The really great exponents of street are poems that strike your heart with life’s experiences. You can’t just go out for an afternoon and come back with a camera full of good street. As I said in “On Street Photography,” “. . .even when you get good at street photography, you’ll shoot bags and bags of bloopers, a smaller number of not too bad shots, and the rare picture you should be willing to show. Beyond that, there’s the kind of picture upon which you’d be willing to hang your reputation. If you can average one of those a year you’re getting pretty good.”

To #2 I’d say: “Depends on the photographer.” There’s the guy who bangs away, hoping to find something in there he can isolate in Photoshop and pretend was a well-grabbed shot. I see plenty of pictures – even on LuLa -- that clearly express the confusion of the photographer.

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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2018, 09:24:29 am »

This whole thread brings up two intriguing questions:
1) can puzzle images really be considered exponents of street genre?
2) if a photographer decides to fill a significant portion of a frame with an element, can that element really be dismissed as only vaguely relevant to the expression?


1. I'm not certain what a "puzzle" picture is, never mind if it's street or otherwise;

2. in my own case, I think so. I use a lot of surround just in order to focus on the spirit of the thing that attracted me in the first place. In essence, it's an attempt, that framing, to contextualise yet, by making said frame less clear, accentuate a part of that whole.

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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2018, 09:30:31 am »

". . .even when you get good at street photography, you’ll shoot bags and bags of bloopers, a smaller number of not too bad shots, and the rare picture you should be willing to show. Beyond that, there’s the kind of picture upon which you’d be willing to hang your reputation. If you can average one of those a year you’re getting pretty good.”
So I take it that the "street" photographs you have recently shared are the rare ones that you are willing to show and on which you'll stake your reputation as a "street" photographer?

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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2018, 09:51:22 am »

Full disclosure: I did NOT use content-aware fill to remove the car in my photo.   :D
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Re: Car and Ghosts
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2018, 10:01:25 am »

So I take it that the "street" photographs you have recently shared are the rare ones that you are willing to show and on which you'll stake your reputation as a "street" photographer?

The street photographs I posted were what turned out to be a futile attempt to point Street Showcase back toward the street genre. If you'd like to see a collection of some of the rare ones, check https://luminous-landscape.com/on-street-photography/.

And now, since you're a critic so well-versed in the street genre that you feel qualified to ask that question, let's see some of your street work, Fab.
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