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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2018, 04:57:20 pm »

Maybe a Mac is in order. I changed my ACR settings for Photoshop to store XMP in the Adobe Camera Raw database.
Opened a raw, made an edit.
Did a search on the Mac for "Adobe Camera Raw Database" instead of Google.
Found this NEW document.
Of course, since I back up the entire drive, every file, it's going to get backed up. Why backup the entire drive? To boot off of, to ensure I never lose ANY document there.
Maybe searching for Adobe Camera Raw Database on Windows is far, far more difficult.  :o
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2018, 04:59:59 pm »

Wrong again. Can you finally accept the CORRECT answer as marked, by someone from Adobe?

I don't think it was marked correct by someone from Adobe, The OP is the one that marks a response "correct" at which point it shows up as "Answered." I presume a Mod may also be able to mark an answer Correct but that would be quite unusual.

So it appears Frans was the one that marked the answer correct.


Sorry Frans. That post was marked by an Adobe employee which can, along with the OP, mark answers correct.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2018, 05:06:15 pm »

Wrong again. Can you finally accept the CORRECT answer as marked, by someone from Adobe?

Not quite correct; you are wrong again. It is not appdata/adobe/cameraraw. If you had looked at the second answer and clicked on the link, then you might have learned, as I just now did, that the path is C:/Users/[my name]/AppData/Roaming/Adobe/CameraRaw/. How come, you always think you know better?
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2018, 05:07:10 pm »

I don't think it was marked correct by someone from Adobe, The OP is the one that marks a response "correct" at which point it shows up as "Answered." I presume a Mod may also be able to mark an answer Correct but that would be quite unusual.

So it appears Frans was the one that marked the answer correct.

No, I didn't, because it's wrong, but now I flagged Michel's answer as correct.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2018, 05:16:09 pm by Frans Waterlander »
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2018, 05:10:31 pm »

No, I didn't, because it's wrong.
Everybody’s wrong right?
Do you know how to search for a file name on your windows computer?
Can you see how easy it is to find the Adobe camera raw database on a Macintosh?
Next thing you’ll tell us that search I’ve applied on my Macintosh is wrong?
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2018, 05:22:22 pm »

Everybody’s wrong right?
Do you know how to search for a file name on your windows computer?
Can you see how easy it is to find the Adobe camera raw database on a Macintosh?
Next thing you’ll tell us that search I’ve applied on my Macintosh is wrong?

I'll respond to your posts if, and only if, you drastically modify your behavior towards me, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2018, 05:25:21 pm »

I'll respond to your posts if, and only if, you drastically modify your behavior towards me, but I'm not holding my breath.
Will someone with experience using Windows 7 please assist Frans in searching for a file name (Adobe camera raw database) residing on his computer. I can’t believe it can be that much more difficult than searching on the Google machine.  :D
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2018, 05:30:58 pm »

Will someone with experience using Windows 7 please assist Frans in searching for a file name (Adobe camera raw database) residing on his computer. I can’t believe it can be that much more difficult than searching on the Google machine.  :D
First find someone here that's running PS Elements and using the database system of storing edits ......

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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2018, 05:36:35 pm »

First find someone here that's running PS Elements and using the database system of storing edits ......
Good point. This might help based on the Audience or maybe it’s wrong too and ANOTHER bug:
https://www.dummies.com/computers/operating-systems/windows-7/how-to-search-for-a-file-or-folder-from-the-windows-7-start-menu/
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2018, 05:52:32 pm »

No, I didn't, because it's wrong, but now I flagged Michel's answer as correct.

No, you didn't. You flip flopped. You first marked it as the correct answer then changed your mind and then marked Michael's as correct.

Amazing!
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2018, 06:03:44 pm »

No, you didn't. You flip flopped. You first marked it as the correct answer then changed your mind and then marked Michael's as correct.

Amazing!
Time to lock this down, no?
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2018, 06:04:21 pm »

No, you didn't. You flip flopped. You first marked it as the correct answer then changed your mind and then marked Michael's as correct.

Amazing!

Excuse me? When I saw the correct answer green star marking the incorrect answer I didn't even know that I could change that.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2018, 06:10:49 pm »

When I saw the correct answer green star marking the incorrect answer I didn't even know that I could change that.
So much to learn.  ;)
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2018, 06:49:10 pm »

Excuse me? When I saw the correct answer green star marking the incorrect answer I didn't even know that I could change that.

Who do you think checked the first answer, Frans? The tooth fairy.  Only the OP (you) or extremely rarely a Mod, can mark an answer "Correct." Own up dude.

Or state that you believe an Adobe Mod marked it incorrectly. Other posters cannot mark it "Correct."

Sorry Frans. I see that the original "answer" was made by an Adobe employee.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2018, 07:06:12 pm »

Who do you think checked the first answer, Frans? The tooth fairy.  Only the OP (you) or extremely rarely a Mod, can mark an answer "Correct." Own up dude.

Or state that you believe an Adobe Mod marked it incorrectly. Other posters cannot mark it "Correct."
Whatever the case, the answer he states is wrong was provided by an Adobe staff member (Yachika). So once again, we see here, on PhotoNet and now on the Adobe UtoU forum that everyone is wrong.
Meanwhile, on that Adobe site, he's told the audience there, the concept of backing up his computer (and all files in all locations) is a mystery.
Doesn't know how to search his computer for a specific file to back up.
Doesn't know how to back up all the files on his computer instead.

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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2018, 07:12:55 pm »

Whatever the case, the answer he states is wrong was provided by an Adobe staff member (Yachika). So once again, we see here, on PhotoNet and now on the Adobe UtoU forum that everyone is wrong.
Meanwhile, on that Adobe site, he's told the audience there, the concept of backing up his computer (and all files in all locations) is a mystery.
Doesn't know how to search his computer for a specific file to back up.
Doesn't know how to back up all the files on his computer instead.

Yeah. Missed the `Adobe` mark by the Yachika. Corrected post.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2018, 07:24:38 pm »

Who do you think checked the first answer, Frans? The tooth fairy.  Only the OP (you) or extremely rarely a Mod, can mark an answer "Correct." Own up dude.

Or state that you believe an Adobe Mod marked it incorrectly. Other posters cannot mark it "Correct."

Sorry Frans. I see that the original "answer" was made by an Adobe employee.

Thanks, Doug.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2018, 06:33:58 am »

Whatever the case, the answer he states is wrong was provided by an Adobe staff member (Yachika).

The answer provided by Yachika is wrong for the windows environment, don't know about the mac.

Anyway, I would recommend avoiding using the option to store the edits in the ACR database due to several reasons:

- The infortunate path chosen by Adobe in windows is normally hidden and not well documented in ACR, and you cannot select an alternate location (that's why it is not easy to find it)
- The location is user specific, so if another user logs in and have access to the same folder where the photos are stored, he/she will not see any edits
- User profiles may get corrupted and the common solution is to create a new user
- IMHO folders in the %user%/appdata tree should be used only for customization, caches, temp, but not for permanent, user independent data. I consider Adobe made a wrong choice of location for the ACR database.

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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2018, 08:23:13 am »

The answer provided by Yachika is wrong for the windows environment, don't know about the mac.

Anyway, I would recommend avoiding using the option to store the edits in the ACR database due to several reasons:

- The infortunate path chosen by Adobe in windows is normally hidden and not well documented in ACR, and you cannot select an alternate location (that's why it is not easy to find it)
- The location is user specific, so if another user logs in and have access to the same folder where the photos are stored, he/she will not see any edits
- User profiles may get corrupted and the common solution is to create a new user
- IMHO folders in the %user%/appdata tree should be used only for customization, caches, temp, but not for permanent, user independent data. I consider Adobe made a wrong choice of location for the ACR database.
Excellent points all!!!  Anyone who is doing serious photo editing should have all their images and information about edits on a drive separate from the OS drive.  The same goes for other types of data as well (word docs, spreadsheets, pdfs, etc).  One can use a variety of different software solutions (some free and some not) to set up a back up system that will do it's job every single day.  Cloud storage is cheap these days as are extra hard drives.  Even though I run WinOS, I have not used Elements since moving to LR/PS some years ago so I cannot tell you for sure where the files are located by default.  Certainly LR lets you customize the drive and folder where your files are stored and also has a catalogue back up system that prompts you each time you exit the program (if you choose that option).  Eve

Maybe the OP does not want to buy into the Adobe CC subscription plan.  If so, why not move to LR 6 which is still available as a single license and make things much easier.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2018, 01:57:49 pm »

Anyone who is doing serious photo editing should have all their images and information about edits on a drive separate from the OS drive.

There's no logic in that assertion.

Jeremy
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