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How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« on: October 08, 2018, 06:35:03 pm »

If I want to use the Camera RAW Database to save my image settings (rather then using xmp sidecars or DNG formatting), how do I back the database up and where do I find this file in the first place? Can't find this information in the user's guide or Adobe website. Adobe chat support didn't know, but they promised that somebody is going to call me back.

Hopefully, some of you can help me out?

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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2018, 07:05:41 pm »

Don't you know how to use the "Google Machine'?
Type"Location of Adobe Camera Raw Database". You'll get the answer but here's a URL to start (2nd in the list on my 'Google Machine')  :D :
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/311957
DO read the comments by a fellow named Thomas Knoll: Then follow them!
https://forums.adobe.com/message/1211589#1211589
Or maybe you'll find this as one of the top hits the 'Google Machine' finds:
https://helpx.adobe.com/ro/camera-raw/using/camera-raw-settings.html
Of course, someone good at computer software troubleshooting would open ACR and invoke a change on an image that would update said database. They could then do a search by file change (by date/time) and up at the top of the list, IF they actually sorted correctly (questionable but not difficult to do), they would see the file just updated due to this update of said database.
Of course someone good at computer skills would backup his entire drive which of course would also back up this database. He'd do this on a daily basis. He'd backup to multiple drives. Then he wouldn't lose anything.
Of course, some people shouldn't be using computers at all.  :P
Maybe the question should be: How to Google to search for answers? It would save you and other's a lot of time.\
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2018, 07:10:15 pm »

The 2nd comment from someone everyone should listen to:
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2018, 08:01:21 pm »

Before posting here I searched extensively and didn't find any useful information, including the 3 articles you linked to. The 2 forum links are from 2007 and way outdated, as is the Adobe article; "Documents and Settings" hasn't been around since Vista! That has been replaced with C:\Users and C:\ProgramData; on my Windows 7 computer, nothing in those paths leads to anything remotely looking like the Database.

So, the questions of how to locate and backup the Database remains unanswered. And FYI, we can all do with a little less vilifying people you don't agree with.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2018, 08:24:41 pm »

Before posting here I searched extensively and didn't find any useful information, including the 3 articles you linked to.
Yes, some are not very good at searching for their own answers or accepting answers. This begs the question why you can't figure out how to search for a recently modified file OR how to do a basic backup of all your files. Again, some people shouldn’t own computers.

The M.O. Is perfectly summed up by this observer:
https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=126843.msg1069472#msg1069472
It looks like the modus operandi of this OP.  Ask a question and let everyone make a good faith effort to provide potential solutions, he does not like any one of them and then at the end somehow finds the solution somewhere else or he knew all along.  I guess I know now not to bother.



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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2018, 09:03:07 pm »

And your search results, 3 outdated documents, are good? You suggest I back up "all my files", even if I don't know where this particular file resides? Doesn't make any sense.

I'd say, either make a positive contribution or don't respond; OK?
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2018, 09:18:51 pm »

And your search results, 3 outdated documents, are good?

You'd know if you tried instead of wasting both our time.
I've been using Photoshop since 1990, version 1.0.9 and guess what? LOTS of the functionality from those days STILL works the same today. But it appears you have to dismiss any data provided from some people no matter the date or by testing, simply because again:

It looks like the modus operandi of this OP. Ask a question and let everyone make a good faith effort to provide potential solutions, he does not like any one of them and then at the end somehow finds the solution somewhere else or he knew all along. I guess I know now not to bother.
But getting attention for yourself in two forums still applies to the MO.


So you really don't understand yet how to backup every file on your computer? It's not that difficult. For those of us that can and should be using a computer. Doesn't matter where this or that file might be on a drive (that thingie that holds all your data Frans) EVERYTHING gets backed up.
I don’t know if you are purposely trying not to understand this, or if you are really struggling with it.
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You suggest I back up "all my files", even if I don't know where this particular file resides? Doesn't make any sense.

So by your own admission, you don't have a clue how to backup your computer? You don't have to know where ANYTHING resides, you have to know how to select a decent software utility to do so, then a hard drive (which you'll have to figure out how to hook up), done. As I said and will say again, some folks just shouldn’t attempt to use a computer.
No, not OK. You can cease asking scary questions, I'll cease with the scary answers.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2018, 09:34:04 pm »

First result from the Google machine on how to backup a computer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F2nh35jq58

A video too, little if any reason to read/comprehend.
Damn, from 2017, probably a need to dismiss it.....  :(
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2018, 09:49:34 pm »

A: Can you explain how to use non-existing "Documents and Settings"?
B: Why back up your whole drive if you only need to back up your own files, like images, spreadsheets, word docs, etc. and this elusive Camera RAW Database?
C: I would still need to know where the elusive Camera RAW Database in residing, in case I ever need it to recover from disaster.
D: What part of "either make a positive contribution or don't respond" don't you understand?
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2018, 09:59:53 pm »

A: Can you explain how to use non-existing "Documents and Settings"?
B: Why back up your whole drive if you only need to back up your own files, like images, spreadsheets, word docs, etc. and this elusive Camera RAW Database?
C: I would still need to know where the elusive Camera RAW Database in residing, in case I ever need it to recover from disaster.
D: What part of "either make a positive contribution or don't respond" don't you understand?

Tell us the wrong answer you'll accept, some here with experience writing fiction might help you out.
Are there no great grand-kids or people who reside around the home who actually understand how computers work and how to back them up you can ask? Or the only sources for you to ask then dismiss are the members of PhotoNet and Luminous Landscape forums you can go to for help/attention? ;)
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2018, 10:43:56 pm »

Finished, Andrew, or are you going to continue with insults and harassment?
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2018, 11:02:26 pm »

Finished, Andrew, or are you going to continue with insults and harassment?
Dont ask questions, you don’t like the answers.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2018, 04:30:06 am »

Andrew, try to answer questions in a less condescending tone - it would augment the appreciation with which the information is likely to be greeted.

Frans, the mere fact that articles are old doesn't necessarily mean that their content has become invalid; and self-help is always good. It's hard to believe that you are as unable to use either computers or the Internet as your questions sometimes suggest.

This perpetual bickering reflects well on neither of you.

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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2018, 04:36:57 am »

how do I back the database up and where do I find this file in the first place? Can't find this information in the user's guide or Adobe website.
You were given the answer to this in the last silly thread you started.
reply #18 in https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=126969.0
Use this link and it's in the second hit on Google.
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=where+does+Photoshop+elements+2018+store+raw+database

Last time you suggested that Adobe's documentation was at fault, it isn't, you just seem incapable of reading it.

And why is this technical query being posted to the, off topic part of the forum, coffee corner ?
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2018, 08:44:23 am »

Andrew, try to answer questions in a less condescending tone - it would augment the appreciation with which the information is likely to be greeted.
Jeremy
Sorry and I’ll try harder. It’s frustrating dealing with some posters who cannot accept repeated facts.
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Frans, the mere fact that articles are old doesn't necessarily mean that their content has become invalid; and self-help is always good. It's hard to believe that you are as unable to use either computers or the Internet as your questions sometimes suggest.
The irony of his complaint should be clear to nearly everyone when considering he’s running Windows 7, released 9 years ago. ::)
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2018, 12:29:42 pm »

Sorry and I’ll try harder. It’s frustrating dealing with some posters who cannot accept repeated facts.The irony of his complaint should be clear to nearly everyone when considering he’s running Windows 7, released 9 years ago. ::)
Then please save your blood pressure for discussions that are important to the forum as a whole. Don't respond.
Every forum i am a member of has an "ignore" option. This one does as well. It works.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2018, 03:00:34 pm »

And why is this technical query being posted to the, off topic part of the forum, coffee corner ?

Now that's a damn fine question. I'd not noticed. I shall move it.

Jeremy
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2018, 04:08:34 pm »

Frans, the mere fact that articles are old doesn't necessarily mean that their content has become invalid; and self-help is always good. It's hard to believe that you are as unable to use either computers or the Internet as your questions sometimes suggest.

I agree with you that old doesn't have to mean invalid, but in this case it applies: those links describe directory paths that are over 10 years out of date and no longer exist. Yes, self-help is good; I spent hours using books, my computer and the internet trying to find the info I needed, before turning to this forum.
My computer and internet skills are apparently good enough to find the same articles that Andrew found and many, many more and I actually read them all. And so far, nobody else has come forward with the information I am seeking. Maybe, just maybe, as a moderator you shouldn't recurgitate the swill that Andrew has been feeding everyone on this forum (and elsewhere) about my computer/internet knowledge.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2018, 04:17:27 pm »

You were given the answer to this in the last silly thread you started.
reply #18 in https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=126969.0
Use this link and it's in the second hit on Google.
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=where+does+Photoshop+elements+2018+store+raw+database

Last time you suggested that Adobe's documentation was at fault, it isn't, you just seem incapable of reading it.

And why is this technical query being posted to the, off topic part of the forum, coffee corner ?

OK. Now we are getting somewhere. I hadn't checked back on the Adobe forum until now, but the second reply indeed includes the path to the Database. Problem solved, finally.
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Re: How to backup Elements 2018 Camera RAW Database in Windows 7?
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2018, 04:28:45 pm »

I agree with you that old doesn't have to mean invalid, but in this case it applies: those links describe directory paths that are over 10 years out of date and no longer exist.
Wrong again. Can you finally accept the CORRECT answer as marked, by someone from Adobe?
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