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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2018, 09:51:16 am »

The Adobe website needs to be completely reconstructed as far as I'm concerned. I detest these websites that channel you through packaged silos of content where you have to start guessing whether the little bit you want is silo'd in this package or that, when all you want to do is see what's available for one product and how to get it. Of course they are not configured for usability, they are configured for marketing and inducing people to buy more than they originally came for - the super-market model.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2018, 11:44:12 am »

The Adobe website needs to be completely reconstructed as far as I'm concerned. I detest these websites that channel you through packaged silos of content where you have to start guessing whether the little bit you want is silo'd in this package or that, when all you want to do is see what's available for one product and how to get it. Of course they are not configured for usability, they are configured for marketing and inducing people to buy more than they originally came for - the super-market model.

Indeed .... and one should not have to resort to internet search engines in order to circumnavigate the obstacle course that is the parent company's web site.

By all means I do understand it is a foundational action for any business to up sell along the way, though,  for sites like Adobe's, should make it ultra easy to collect customer's funds ... not add extra layers of difficulty getting to a consistent result.

Like I said earlier, I am hopeful they are simply doing some work behind the scene on their site and it will settle out soon.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2018, 01:14:08 pm »

Like I said earlier, I am hopeful they are simply doing some work behind the scene on their site and it will settle out soon.

Hardly seems to be "behind the scenes." It's front and center on multiple pages using separate elements and likely constructed by more than a single individual. Therefore, probably not a single person's mistake or typo.

I guess we'll learn soon enough.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2018, 03:40:40 pm »

Hardly seems to be "behind the scenes." It's front and center on multiple pages using separate elements and likely constructed by more than a single individual. Therefore, probably not a single person's mistake or typo.

I guess we'll learn soon enough.
I just went on the www.adobe.com website and navigate just as any new photographer might do and only find the $19.99/month plan for LR and PS.  I think this is likely intentional as probably a lot of the web placement advertising drives people to this price point.  Only sophisticated LuLa users (and some others) would know about the less expensive version.  This probably portends a price raise of the basic LR/PS package.  I hope that Serif's work towards a LR alternative proves fruitful.  Their PS substitute Affinity Photo is just as good and available for a flat fee.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2018, 03:55:59 pm »

Alan, I'm wondering whether there isn't just an error in specification somewhere. I don't see how they would deliberately offer the same package for 9.95 in one part of their website and 19.95 in another. Either the 19 is a typo, or there are offering something more for the extra 10 bucks, or the 9 is a lingering error after deciding to raise the price to 19. But in this latter case, they would have advised customers of the price increase, unless they intend to maintain two classes of customer: the ones who are already subscribed versus the ones who will subscribe henceforth. I doubt this would be viewed as a fair and sustainable business strategy, insofar as it violates the one-price principle. They should clean it up - an Adobe spokesperson should get onto this Forum and tell us what the pricing is.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2018, 04:12:57 pm »

It looks like the $9.99 plan includes 20 GB of cloud storage while the $19.99 plan includes 1 TB.

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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2018, 04:18:26 pm »

OK - that could be the whole story - except that it takes a bunch of educated people scurrying all over their wretched website to parse this.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2018, 04:37:48 pm »

It looks like the $9.99 plan includes 20 GB of cloud storage while the $19.99 plan includes 1 TB.

-Scott
Exactly. But again, there is a PS/LR “bundle” available for $9.95 per month from multiple resellers.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2018, 04:39:28 pm »

OK - that could be the whole story - except that it takes a bunch of educated people scurrying all over their wretched website to parse this.
I'll have to wait and see if I get a LR/PS pop up advertisement on some of the other websites I visit (thanks Google advertising) and see where that leads.  I suspect Adobe is trying to drive people to the high cost option.  Most newbies won't know that another less expensive one exists.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2018, 05:29:42 pm »

If that's the case, shame on them. They show customers transparently and easily what the options are and what you get for what you pay, then let the customers select what they need.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2018, 07:51:35 pm »

Exactly. But again, there is a PS/LR “bundle” available for $9.95 per month from multiple resellers.
One more: B&H Photo, and they show two prices depending on storage;
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1124191-REG/adobe_65259312_creative_cloud_photography_plan.htm
$9.95 or $19.95 depending on that option.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2018, 12:41:32 am »

One more: B&H Photo, and they show two prices depending on storage;
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1124191-REG/adobe_65259312_creative_cloud_photography_plan.htm
$9.95 or $19.95 depending on that option.

Yes, Andrew ... we already know we can find the deal at other web sites and using search engines ... but wouldn't it also be prudent to easily discover the same exact offerings directly on the source site of Adobe.com?

It's like trying to order a Whopper from Burger King by stopping at the hardware store .... I'm sure some industrious hardware store clerk would be willing to run across town and bring you back a burger ... but why all the hoops to jump through?

I know I would rather have visitors to my site find exactly what they seek quickly, easily and without confusion. I guess I'm odd to think so.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2018, 09:26:30 am »

Yes, Andrew ... we already know we can find the deal at other web sites and using search engines ... but wouldn't it also be prudent to easily discover the same exact offerings directly on the source site of Adobe.com?

It's like trying to order a Whopper from Burger King by stopping at the hardware store .... I'm sure some industrious hardware store clerk would be willing to run across town and bring you back a burger ... but why all the hoops to jump through?

I know I would rather have visitors to my site find exactly what they seek quickly, easily and without confusion. I guess I'm odd to think so.
You have a site?  ;)
Finding the product you asked about for your friend isn’t too difficult, must he purchase from Adobes site? Or the post is a review of Adobes web site in purchasing one bundle? You and your friends, based on the replies here should have no difficulty in purchasing that now if that’s the goal of this thread.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2018, 09:38:45 am »

You have a site?  ;)
Finding the product you asked about for your friend isn’t too difficult, must he purchase from Adobes site? Or the post is a review of Adobes web site in purchasing one bundle? You and your friends, based on the replies here should have no difficulty in purchasing that now if that’s the goal of this thread.

My friend did indeed secure the subscription she desired. Though it could have been much less cumbersome and more efficient. Thanks for your sincere concern. She can sleep more comfortably now knowing you had her best interests at heart. Too bad Adobe wasn't as equally concerned for her well being.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2018, 10:41:09 am »

Either Adobe's links are messed up or they are testing the waters. I believe at one time $9.99 was a time limited introductory offer but Adobe decided to keep it at $9.99.

Things seem different today. When I used this link the other day the pricing would spin for a few seconds. I wondered what it is checking. Today if I'm logged in it comes up saying - The latest release of LR CC ---- no pricing. If I log out then I get starting at $9.99 - no spinning price.         

https://www.adobe.com/ca/creativecloud/photography.html

We were helping out a person on another forum who could not get the $9.99 to come up anywhere on the Adobe site and this link worked.   

https://www.adobe.com/ca/creativecloud/plans.html?sdid=KKSPR       

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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2018, 10:55:28 am »

Either Adobe's links are messed up or they are testing the waters. I believe at one time $9.99 was a time limited introductory offer but Adobe decided to keep it at $9.99.
AFAIK, Adobe never promised any yearly subscription prices for any specific duration. Be dumb to do so. But today, getting a yearly $9.99 plan isn't close to impossible. Thankfully lots of people still sell it. What happens in the future, who knows. But yes, you see a difference based on logging as I did. And if you see two additional resellers offering the product (ANY product) for less, why not pay less? We HAVE options today. What is 'cumbersome' is trying the same failed attempt over and over again on ONE site when many others provide the product at the price expected. Life's a bit too short for anything else expect arguing in photography web forums.  ;D
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« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2018, 11:16:32 am »

 I thought at one time $9.99 was sale price (regular $19.99) and if you got it for $9.99 would be the price forever excluding general increases which I expect one day. The $49.99 went up 6 percent. That would be 60 cents for the photo plan but who knows what it will be. I very well could be wrong about the sale price part. 

My wife came across a joke one day. Someone asked a person what they used the internet for. "I use it to show pictures of my cats and argue with people I don't know"  :D   

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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2018, 12:29:51 pm »

I thought at one time $9.99 was sale price (regular $19.99) and if you got it for $9.99 would be the price forever excluding general increases which I expect one day.

I think you are correct in that the initial offerings for CC subscriptions were at in introductory rate for a limited period. Then there was a period of several months that Adobe had to 'Listen' to their traditional photography customers who requested a combo of Ps/Lr at a more affordable price point, which Adobe did indeed come up with ... again with an initial offering at a lower than expected price point which has carried on until now, several years later. That's not to say that most all users don't expect reasonable price increases over time. This situation doesn't appear to me to be simply a price increase, rather an attempt to draw new customers into a more cloud based user model.

Though, if what we are witnessing at Adobe.com is an intentional marketing ploy to up sell new customers, guiding them to the 1TB storage plan does seem a bit heavy handed ... considering Adobe has priced the additional $10 per month for 1TB over the 20GB plan when Apple offers 2TB cloud storage for $9.99 per month and Dropbox offers 3TB for about $14 per month.
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Re: Is the original Adobe CC Photography Package no more?
« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2018, 12:43:55 pm »

I thought at one time $9.99 was sale price (regular $19.99) and if you got it for $9.99 would be the price forever excluding general increases which I expect one day.
I think you are correct in that the initial offerings for CC subscriptions were at in introductory rate for a limited period.
Now that we know what you think, can you provide any evidence?
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Though, if what we are witnessing at Adobe.com is an intentional marketing ploy to up sell new customers, guiding them to the 1TB storage plan does seem a bit heavy handed ...
If indeed. Possible no question. Let's see the proof.
Meanwhile, is anyone here STILL uncertain how to get a year's subscription for $9.99?
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« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2018, 12:59:20 pm »

Now that we know what you think, can you provide any evidence?

Can you?
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