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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: ButchM on September 27, 2018, 10:04:13 am
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Been trying to help a friend find the original Photography package on the Adobe US site and all that is there now is a $9.99 per month deal for Lr CC (not Classic) with 1TB cloud storage ... or the bigger Lr CC, Lr Classic, Photoshop plus 1TB Cloud storage for $19.99.
Did I miss an announcement of the change? Will this change current subscriptions? Anyone else notice the change?
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At this link, US site, it is still 9.99/month"
Adobe Photography Plan (https://commerce.adobe.com/anyware/checkout/?clientId=creative&countryCode=US&languageCode=en&marketSegment=COM&items%5B0%5D%5BofferId%5D=08823B2E8361CE018F9A2C51CF489283&items%5B0%5D%5Bquantity%5D=1&returnUrl=undefined)
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Mark ... how did you get to that link?
Here is a screen shot from last night ... and it still comes up now ... can't find the 20GB plan anywhere with reasonable navigation ...
(https://butchmiller.com/Screen-Shot-2018-09-27-12.13.21-AM.png)
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I forget - just navigated there from the products page. If your friend copy/pastes that link I provided into his browser he should be able to order the plan for 9.99.
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I forget - just navigated there from the products page. If your friend copy/pastes that link I provided into his browser he should be able to order the plan for 9.99.
That's exactly my experience with your link. It works as expected:
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That's exactly my experience with your link. It works as expected:
I agree Mark's link does indeed work, though, try getting to that result from a cold start on the Adobe home page ... it an exercise in futility. It really shouldn't be hidden. It is reminiscent of how they went out of their way to hide the perpetual version of LR6.
How are new users supposed to find it. Mark is a nice guy, but new prospective users may not know to come here and use his link to get there.
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Not at all sure if this of any help as I am U.K. based but...
A search using Adobe CC brings me to this page where the photography plan is shown you may have to scroll down.
https://www.adobe.com/uk/creativecloud.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIldXZv_bb3QIV7rDtCh21bgRUEAAYASAAEgKdTfD_BwE&sdid=88X75SKR&mv=search&s_kwcid=AL!3085!3!273769967925!e!!g!!adobe%20cc&ef_id=W60wcwAABCD4rLAj:20180927193531:s
AFAIK you should get a warning if you are not in U.K. to switch page
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I agree Mark's link does indeed work, though, try getting to that result from a cold start on the Adobe home page ... it an exercise in futility. It really shouldn't be hidden. It is reminiscent of how they went out of their way to hide the perpetual version of LR6.
How are new users supposed to find it. Mark is a nice guy, but new prospective users may not know to come here and use his link to get there.
Well they could use the "Google machine". ???
I typed "Adobe Photography Plan" and this is the first link that came up:
https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography.html (https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography.html)
And as you can see, the $9.99 plan is shown lower down.
Hidden? Please.
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Well they could use the "Google machine". ???
I typed "Adobe Photography Plan" and this is the first link that came up:
https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography.html (https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography.html)
And as you can see, the $9.99 plan is shown lower down.
Hidden? Please.
Sure, you can google it ... but show me how you find it starting at Adobe.com
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Sure, you can google it ... but show me how you find it starting at Adobe.com
Easy!
1. Go here: https://www.adobe.com (https://www.adobe.com)
2. Click on this link on the page for Creative Cloud shown below which after all is one of many Adobe products: https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud.html?promoid=ZP46FD38&mv=other (https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud.html?promoid=ZP46FD38&mv=other)
Click see all plans (https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography.html):
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OK, interesting, I see that the https://www.adobe.com (https://www.adobe.com) page differs IF you're logged in or not. Since I'm a CC customer, they recognized me so the web page looks quite different than the screen captures below. The #2 (click on CC) isn't there.
You go to this page. But to see plans, there's a different GUI: Creatively & Design dropdown shows View all Plans.
Now I see LR for $9.95 and the Photography plan for $19.95.
Mark, you signed in as a subscriber like I was and if you log out from the Adobe page, does the price change?
EDIT: Look on the Apple store:
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HKW02ZM/A/adobe-creative-cloud-photography-plan (https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HKW02ZM/A/adobe-creative-cloud-photography-plan)
$9.95 ($119.95 for a year). So does Amazon.
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OK, I was able to replicate it. I did as follows: www.adobe.com > View All Products (very bottom of page) > Lightroom Classic Buy Now > Photography Plan 9.99. I was not logged in to my account. They key is to go to "View All Products" and not get all hung up in the BS manner they've organized their web page.
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OK, I was able to replicate it. I did as follows: www.adobe.com > View All Products (very bottom of page) > Lightroom Classic Buy Now > Photography Plan 9.99. I was not logged in to my account. They key is to go to "View All Products" and not get all hung up in the BS manner they've organized their web page.
But LR only, or both PS and LR? There was (is as I provided) a plan for both at $9.95 per month.
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I'm pretty sure it means both, because it is called Photography plan, which is both - even though one clicks on Lr itself to get there.
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I'm pretty sure it means both, because it is called Photography plan, which is both - even though one clicks on Lr itself to get there.
But on the page I was on, I could toggle between LR and Photoshop. Something is weird here. I think their page may be wrong as both Apple and Amazon provide as you state, both products for $9.95.
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Finally others are seeing what I have been seeing ... very inconsistent results ... hopefully it's just work being done behind the scenes to the Adobe site.
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Finally others are seeing what I have been seeing ... very inconsistent results ... hopefully it's just work being done behind the scenes to the Adobe site.
Please let’s not begin the conspiracies again; probably a mistake on that page. Both Apple and Amazon, probably others, as shown, sell the plan with both applications at $9.95 per month. The “buggy” page makes no sense if you toggle the two options as well. It’s stated as a “Photogrpaphy Plan”,but a plan with one application and no additional storage? This Adobe page shows two $9.95 monthly options, one with BOTH applications but less storage OR just LR with far more cloud storage:
https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom.html
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Been trying to help a friend find the original Photography package on the Adobe US site and all that is there now is a $9.99 per month deal for Lr CC (not Classic) with 1TB cloud storage ... or the bigger Lr CC, Lr Classic, Photoshop plus 1TB Cloud storage for $19.99.
Did I miss an announcement of the change? Will this change current subscriptions? Anyone else notice the change?
I recommend your friend use Mark's link and jump on the deal for $9.99 per month while the page is still there and then slip out quickly and quietly.
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I recommend your friend use Mark's link and jump on the deal for $9.99 per month while the page is still there and then slip out quickly and quietly.
Or purchase from Apple. Or Amazon. Or......
It really isn’t that difficult to find that offer on “ the internets”:)
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Please let’s not begin the conspiracies again; probably a mistake on that page. Both Apple and Amazon, probably others, as shown, sell the plan with both applications at $9.95 per month. The “buggy” page makes no sense if you toggle the two options as well. It’s stated as a “Photogrpaphy Plan”,but a plan with one application and no additional storage? This Adobe page shows two $9.95 monthly options, one with BOTH applications but less storage OR just LR with far more cloud storage:
https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom.html
Geez ... don't get your knickers in a bunch. Who said anything about a conspiracy? I was simply pointing inconsistencies when navigating the Adobe web site.
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The Adobe website needs to be completely reconstructed as far as I'm concerned. I detest these websites that channel you through packaged silos of content where you have to start guessing whether the little bit you want is silo'd in this package or that, when all you want to do is see what's available for one product and how to get it. Of course they are not configured for usability, they are configured for marketing and inducing people to buy more than they originally came for - the super-market model.
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The Adobe website needs to be completely reconstructed as far as I'm concerned. I detest these websites that channel you through packaged silos of content where you have to start guessing whether the little bit you want is silo'd in this package or that, when all you want to do is see what's available for one product and how to get it. Of course they are not configured for usability, they are configured for marketing and inducing people to buy more than they originally came for - the super-market model.
Indeed .... and one should not have to resort to internet search engines in order to circumnavigate the obstacle course that is the parent company's web site.
By all means I do understand it is a foundational action for any business to up sell along the way, though, for sites like Adobe's, should make it ultra easy to collect customer's funds ... not add extra layers of difficulty getting to a consistent result.
Like I said earlier, I am hopeful they are simply doing some work behind the scene on their site and it will settle out soon.
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Like I said earlier, I am hopeful they are simply doing some work behind the scene on their site and it will settle out soon.
Hardly seems to be "behind the scenes." It's front and center on multiple pages using separate elements and likely constructed by more than a single individual. Therefore, probably not a single person's mistake or typo.
I guess we'll learn soon enough.
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Hardly seems to be "behind the scenes." It's front and center on multiple pages using separate elements and likely constructed by more than a single individual. Therefore, probably not a single person's mistake or typo.
I guess we'll learn soon enough.
I just went on the www.adobe.com website and navigate just as any new photographer might do and only find the $19.99/month plan for LR and PS. I think this is likely intentional as probably a lot of the web placement advertising drives people to this price point. Only sophisticated LuLa users (and some others) would know about the less expensive version. This probably portends a price raise of the basic LR/PS package. I hope that Serif's work towards a LR alternative proves fruitful. Their PS substitute Affinity Photo is just as good and available for a flat fee.
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Alan, I'm wondering whether there isn't just an error in specification somewhere. I don't see how they would deliberately offer the same package for 9.95 in one part of their website and 19.95 in another. Either the 19 is a typo, or there are offering something more for the extra 10 bucks, or the 9 is a lingering error after deciding to raise the price to 19. But in this latter case, they would have advised customers of the price increase, unless they intend to maintain two classes of customer: the ones who are already subscribed versus the ones who will subscribe henceforth. I doubt this would be viewed as a fair and sustainable business strategy, insofar as it violates the one-price principle. They should clean it up - an Adobe spokesperson should get onto this Forum and tell us what the pricing is.
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It looks like the $9.99 plan includes 20 GB of cloud storage while the $19.99 plan includes 1 TB.
-Scott
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OK - that could be the whole story - except that it takes a bunch of educated people scurrying all over their wretched website to parse this.
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It looks like the $9.99 plan includes 20 GB of cloud storage while the $19.99 plan includes 1 TB.
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Exactly. But again, there is a PS/LR “bundle” available for $9.95 per month from multiple resellers.
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OK - that could be the whole story - except that it takes a bunch of educated people scurrying all over their wretched website to parse this.
I'll have to wait and see if I get a LR/PS pop up advertisement on some of the other websites I visit (thanks Google advertising) and see where that leads. I suspect Adobe is trying to drive people to the high cost option. Most newbies won't know that another less expensive one exists.
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If that's the case, shame on them. They show customers transparently and easily what the options are and what you get for what you pay, then let the customers select what they need.
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Exactly. But again, there is a PS/LR “bundle” available for $9.95 per month from multiple resellers.
One more: B&H Photo, and they show two prices depending on storage;
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1124191-REG/adobe_65259312_creative_cloud_photography_plan.htm
$9.95 or $19.95 depending on that option.
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One more: B&H Photo, and they show two prices depending on storage;
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1124191-REG/adobe_65259312_creative_cloud_photography_plan.htm
$9.95 or $19.95 depending on that option.
Yes, Andrew ... we already know we can find the deal at other web sites and using search engines ... but wouldn't it also be prudent to easily discover the same exact offerings directly on the source site of Adobe.com?
It's like trying to order a Whopper from Burger King by stopping at the hardware store .... I'm sure some industrious hardware store clerk would be willing to run across town and bring you back a burger ... but why all the hoops to jump through?
I know I would rather have visitors to my site find exactly what they seek quickly, easily and without confusion. I guess I'm odd to think so.
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Yes, Andrew ... we already know we can find the deal at other web sites and using search engines ... but wouldn't it also be prudent to easily discover the same exact offerings directly on the source site of Adobe.com?
It's like trying to order a Whopper from Burger King by stopping at the hardware store .... I'm sure some industrious hardware store clerk would be willing to run across town and bring you back a burger ... but why all the hoops to jump through?
I know I would rather have visitors to my site find exactly what they seek quickly, easily and without confusion. I guess I'm odd to think so.
You have a site? ;)
Finding the product you asked about for your friend isn’t too difficult, must he purchase from Adobes site? Or the post is a review of Adobes web site in purchasing one bundle? You and your friends, based on the replies here should have no difficulty in purchasing that now if that’s the goal of this thread.
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You have a site? ;)
Finding the product you asked about for your friend isn’t too difficult, must he purchase from Adobes site? Or the post is a review of Adobes web site in purchasing one bundle? You and your friends, based on the replies here should have no difficulty in purchasing that now if that’s the goal of this thread.
My friend did indeed secure the subscription she desired. Though it could have been much less cumbersome and more efficient. Thanks for your sincere concern. She can sleep more comfortably now knowing you had her best interests at heart. Too bad Adobe wasn't as equally concerned for her well being.
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Either Adobe's links are messed up or they are testing the waters. I believe at one time $9.99 was a time limited introductory offer but Adobe decided to keep it at $9.99.
Things seem different today. When I used this link the other day the pricing would spin for a few seconds. I wondered what it is checking. Today if I'm logged in it comes up saying - The latest release of LR CC ---- no pricing. If I log out then I get starting at $9.99 - no spinning price.
https://www.adobe.com/ca/creativecloud/photography.html
We were helping out a person on another forum who could not get the $9.99 to come up anywhere on the Adobe site and this link worked.
https://www.adobe.com/ca/creativecloud/plans.html?sdid=KKSPR
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Either Adobe's links are messed up or they are testing the waters. I believe at one time $9.99 was a time limited introductory offer but Adobe decided to keep it at $9.99.
AFAIK, Adobe never promised any yearly subscription prices for any specific duration. Be dumb to do so. But today, getting a yearly $9.99 plan isn't close to impossible. Thankfully lots of people still sell it. What happens in the future, who knows. But yes, you see a difference based on logging as I did. And if you see two additional resellers offering the product (ANY product) for less, why not pay less? We HAVE options today. What is 'cumbersome' is trying the same failed attempt over and over again on ONE site when many others provide the product at the price expected. Life's a bit too short for anything else expect arguing in photography web forums. ;D
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I thought at one time $9.99 was sale price (regular $19.99) and if you got it for $9.99 would be the price forever excluding general increases which I expect one day. The $49.99 went up 6 percent. That would be 60 cents for the photo plan but who knows what it will be. I very well could be wrong about the sale price part.
My wife came across a joke one day. Someone asked a person what they used the internet for. "I use it to show pictures of my cats and argue with people I don't know" :D
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I thought at one time $9.99 was sale price (regular $19.99) and if you got it for $9.99 would be the price forever excluding general increases which I expect one day.
I think you are correct in that the initial offerings for CC subscriptions were at in introductory rate for a limited period. Then there was a period of several months that Adobe had to 'Listen' to their traditional photography customers who requested a combo of Ps/Lr at a more affordable price point, which Adobe did indeed come up with ... again with an initial offering at a lower than expected price point which has carried on until now, several years later. That's not to say that most all users don't expect reasonable price increases over time. This situation doesn't appear to me to be simply a price increase, rather an attempt to draw new customers into a more cloud based user model.
Though, if what we are witnessing at Adobe.com is an intentional marketing ploy to up sell new customers, guiding them to the 1TB storage plan does seem a bit heavy handed ... considering Adobe has priced the additional $10 per month for 1TB over the 20GB plan when Apple offers 2TB cloud storage for $9.99 per month and Dropbox offers 3TB for about $14 per month.
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I thought at one time $9.99 was sale price (regular $19.99) and if you got it for $9.99 would be the price forever excluding general increases which I expect one day.
I think you are correct in that the initial offerings for CC subscriptions were at in introductory rate for a limited period.
Now that we know what you think, can you provide any evidence?
Though, if what we are witnessing at Adobe.com is an intentional marketing ploy to up sell new customers, guiding them to the 1TB storage plan does seem a bit heavy handed ...
If indeed. Possible no question. Let's see the proof.
Meanwhile, is anyone here STILL uncertain how to get a year's subscription for $9.99?
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Now that we know what you think, can you provide any evidence?
Can you?
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I have a really bad memory but I don't know why I remembered this.
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3418907783/adobe-now-offers-photoshop-and-lightroom-for-everyone
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Can you?
Can I help prove what you've assumed is correct? No, I can't. That's why I asked.
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And then there is this.
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/5712607337/adobe-to-offer-lightroom-and-photoshop-cc-for-9-99-monthly
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I have a really bad memory but I don't know why I remembered this.
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3418907783/adobe-now-offers-photoshop-and-lightroom-for-everyone (https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3418907783/adobe-now-offers-photoshop-and-lightroom-for-everyone)
And what it states, from 2013 is confusing and iffy if we are to believe 5 years later, the $9,99 price isn't possible which it is:
Now Adobe is lifting that requirement for a limited time. Through December 2, 2013, the $9.99 (£8.78/€12,29) per month subscription is available to everyone. The offer applies to the first twelve months' subscription, after which it will rise to the normal price of $19.99/month.
What they lifted apparently is the requirement you had to own CS3:
....there was a catch -- you had to already own Photoshop CS3 or later to qualify for the special pricing.
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Enough.
Jeremy