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ON1 announces Photo Raw 2019
« on: September 25, 2018, 01:13:42 pm »

"Version 2019 will include significant updates to both performance and image quality, notable new features like a new non-destructive workflow for layers, Lightroom® photo settings migration, auto-alignment of layers, focus stacking, a new portrait module, a new AI-powered masking tool, a new text tool, new digital asset management updates, and more."

More info here.


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Re: ON1 announces Photo Raw 2019
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2018, 01:45:52 pm »

Supports DNGs?
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Re: ON1 announces Photo Raw 2019
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2018, 04:47:26 pm »

Supports DNGs?
Looks like it does, scroll to last paragraph.
https://www.on1.com/blog/an-all-new-photo-editing-experience-on1-photo-raw-2019/

Seems to combine features of PS and LR so will be interesting to see how it really stands up to comparison
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2018, 04:56:59 pm »

Looks like it does, scroll to last paragraph.
https://www.on1.com/blog/an-all-new-photo-editing-experience-on1-photo-raw-2019/

Seems to combine features of PS and LR so will be interesting to see how it really stands up to comparison
Thanks, the page I was looking at didn’t have a mention of it.
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Re: ON1 announces Photo Raw 2019
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2018, 04:59:34 pm »

Thanks Tony for the follow-up!
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Re: ON1 announces Photo Raw 2019
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2018, 05:14:26 pm »

So I can get this new version for $99 which seems a deal OR it and ON1 Plus for $129. WON1 Plus, is this added 'stuff' listed below? Sorry, I'm searching their web site but it's not as clearly outlined as I'd like.
I also see a deal for the 2018.5 version with what appears to have similar "plus" options for $69. But I suspect no free upgrade to 2019 from it if ordered soon?
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2018, 05:19:32 pm »

Andrew, I just wrote them in hopes of clarifying your question.
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Re: ON1 announces Photo Raw 2019
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2018, 05:21:25 pm »

Andrew, I just wrote them in hopes of clarifying your question.
So did I. I don't see DNG listed as supported in 2018.5 so that might be a deal breaker and I'd just go directly to 2019, again if they fully support DNGs.
Always looking for an Adobe exit strategy that supports that format.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2018, 05:33:18 pm »

Might be a great product but again, their web site needs work in clarifying stuff.
When I view info about an older version once found, I see this:

What file types will ON1 Photo 2017 (Photo RAW) work with?
ON1 Photo RAW supports JPEG, TIF, PSD, PSB, PNG, DNG and most raw formats directly from DSLR cameras.

Now I look at the same kind of descriptor for 2018.5, no mention of DNG.
Since it was pointed out the new version supports it, and the old, seems I'm OK but I'll report what I hear back from them.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2018, 05:49:02 pm »

ON1 says,

"The $129.99 option is the way to go.
See this link for more detailed ON1 Plus info.
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2018, 06:16:03 pm »

Well despite their web page confusion, their pre-sales tech-support is superb. I got an email back from them less than an hour after contacting them. The current and new version does indeed fully support DNG. I’m quite impressed.
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2018, 07:14:47 pm »

Got another email from them, man, this is really good pre-sales support. I asked about purchasing the current version (2018.5) at their sales price. Will I get a free upgrade if I pull the trigger now. Here's the reply which is enough to pull $69 from my credit card now that I know there is DNG support:
If you purchase the Photo RAW 2018 version today, you will receive the new Photo RAW 2019 for free when it is released later this Fall (mid November).

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2018, 07:16:49 pm »

Thanks for the update Andrew! Glad it all worked out for you.
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Re: ON1 announces Photo Raw 2019
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2018, 05:03:35 am »

The important question is; Is it any good ?
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2018, 08:47:10 am »

The important question is; Is it any good ?

They have a 30 day trial of the current version - ON1 2018.5

I've been working with it since the end of last year, trying to pull away from Lightroom.

I really like it, but the mid-summer update was buggy as heck, with lots of users reporting crashes.
It appears they fixed that in last update and, at least for me, it is now pretty solid.
They have a significant amount of video tutorials available, also.

So is it good? I am too new at this to say, but I will try the 2019 version when it comes out. The new changes sound too good not to at least try.
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2018, 09:09:38 am »

They have a 30 day trial of the current version
Yes, just trying that out now.
Some interesting ideas and different approaches, but the core raw conversions look pretty grim so far. ACR(LR), CO and even Affinity seem significantly better at getting detail out of the files I've tried so far.
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2018, 09:53:16 am »

I have been using their software for some time. They do ok for conversions, the ultimate detail for me is done by Capture One for my Fuji files but also converting to DNG with Iridient is a good option. They have some really nice masking options and some good ways to enhance things, but like a lot of things it is not perfect by any means. Their recent updates have been very good. I am quite happy with it, I liked it a lot better than Luminar. Capture One is still by far the best raw converter but On1 is close behind for me. The new upcoming version will have a lot of nice updates and new features.

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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2018, 10:45:04 am »

Got another email from them, man, this is really good pre-sales support. I asked about purchasing the current version (2018.5) at their sales price. Will I get a free upgrade if I pull the trigger now. Here's the reply which is enough to pull $69 from my credit card now that I know there is DNG support:
If you purchase the Photo RAW 2018 version today, you will receive the new Photo RAW 2019 for free when it is released later this Fall (mid November).

You must have some big pull Andrew.  I recently received an email notification referring to the 2019 version, so I checked the site.  I can find no reference to a free upgrade for those who own the 2018 version of Photo Raw.  Pre-Order pricing  -- Full version $100.00USD and Upgrade $80.00USD.  Updates are free, but upgrades not so, never have been as far as I recall.  Perhaps they are making an exception for 2019, but there is no reference to that on their site, unless I missed it completely.

EDIT:  I just remembered that in some cases, when ordering an app near the end of its current version you might be able to step up to the new version gratis.  I believe the grace period only applies to an older version purchased within a few months of the launch of the new version.  Perhaps that's the reason for the free upgrade in your situation, not sure.  If I fudge my receipt for the 2018 version, do you think they would buy that Andrew?  I don't think I could get away with that, nor should I of course.   ;)

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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2018, 12:49:31 pm »

You must have some big pull Andrew.  I recently received an email notification referring to the 2019 version, so I checked the site.  I can find no reference to a free upgrade for those who own the 2018 version of Photo Raw.  Pre-Order pricing  -- Full version $100.00USD and Upgrade $80.00USD.  Updates are free, but upgrades not so, never have been as far as I recall.  Perhaps they are making an exception for 2019, but there is no reference to that on their site, unless I missed it completely.

EDIT:  I just remembered that in some cases, when ordering an app near the end of its current version you might be able to step up to the new version gratis.  I believe the grace period only applies to an older version purchased within a few months of the launch of the new version.  Perhaps that's the reason for the free upgrade in your situation, not sure.  If I fudge my receipt for the 2018 version, do you think they would buy that Andrew?  I don't think I could get away with that, nor should I of course.   ;)

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Big pull indeed.  ;D
Here's the copy and paste of the email about the upgrade. I'm keeping it to ensure they honor it (no reason to suspect they would not). Maybe the free upgrade if purchased "today" is just good timing on my part.
   
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Hello Andrew,


Yes. If you purchase the Photo RAW 2018 version today, you will receive the new Photo RAW 2019 for free when it is released later this Fall (mid November). You will be able to purchase here:
https://www.on1.com/products/photo-raw/


If there is anything else I can do for you, please feel free to send me an email. I am happy to help.


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Re: ON1 announces Photo Raw 2019
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2018, 12:54:03 pm »

I have been using their software for some time. They do ok for conversions, the ultimate detail for me is done by Capture One for my Fuji files but also converting to DNG with Iridient is a good option. They have some really nice masking options and some good ways to enhance things, but like a lot of things it is not perfect by any means. Their recent updates have been very good. I am quite happy with it, I liked it a lot better than Luminar. Capture One is still by far the best raw converter but On1 is close behind for me. The new upcoming version will have a lot of nice updates and new features.

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BIG big fan of the rendering from Iridient Developer too, last time I did a side by side with the ACR engine, it was tops. But I still use LR 99.9% of the time so if On1 can supply a kind of DAM, be about on par with LR (time will tell), and a possible future Adobe exit strategy, I'm cool with the $69 loss. I'm also hoping this company is a bit more responsive in handling software issues much like their tech support as Adobe has been kind of slow in handling LR feature updates I find useful, and kind of dog slow in some areas of functionally.
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