Started by Stephan_Pawloski, January 11, 2018, 09:14:04 pm
Quote from: Stephan_Pawloski on January 11, 2018, 09:14:04 pmHello all,I recently made a little over 100 test prints on a myriad of different papers. I'm looking to step up things a bit and get away from using some of the more generic papers when selling prints. Naturally, I would like to stick with the new paper of choice for at least a few years. After evaluating the prints, I ended up choosing the Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Pearl (the Red River Palo Duro Softgloss Rag was a very close 2nd), but have since noticed that all 4 of the paper suppliers in my area are clearing out their Hahnemuhle papers and don't intend to keep it in stock anymore (special order only). I don't mind buying online, but I'm a bit concerned that there might be a sort of Hahnemuhle exodus going on and that I might be better with the Red River paper over the long run if the Photo Rag Pearl is going to become harder to source.
Quote from: deanwork on January 12, 2018, 12:41:35 pmCanson used to be the best matte rag gamut, slightly better than Hahnemühle. Now the Canson gamut is duller in my tests. I'm seeing it in things I've reprinted from years ago files.
Quote from: unesco on January 12, 2018, 02:52:31 pmI was going to introduce Canson Rags to my print portfolio, but it looks like I will stay with Epson Hot Press which I love and again start to like HM (am I getting mature ;-) ), especially for limitted series of graphics reproductionBTW, do you know who makes Hot Press for Epson? on my A2 package it is written "Made in Italy"... Fabriano as the third missing from grand mills trinity?
Quote from: Peter McLennan on January 12, 2018, 11:46:43 pmThis is gonna be heretical, so I apologize in advance for both the heresy and the thread hijacking. But you guys seem to be very knowledgeable.I'd like to know who makes the "Kirkland Professional Glossy Inkjet Photo Paper" that I see at Costco in the USA and Canada.
Quote from: deanwork on January 12, 2018, 12:41:35 pmThere is nothing sinking about Hahnemühle. They have been the most popular high-end media since they started coating their papers for inkjet almost 20 years ago. They have also been the most consistent in regard to quality control in my experience for the last 18 years I've used them.
Quote from: snowrs on January 13, 2018, 03:47:06 pmOK, I'm just trying to look at the bigger picture of retailing at brick and mortar stores in the U.S. and perhaps also the changing habits of "photographers" in this country.Retail stores across the land are losing out on market share to on line sales and going out of business in ever increasing numbers...not only in camera/photo stores but in many types of product sellers. Trying to stay in business, many retailers are minimizing inventories and are more attentive to sales volumes by product than ever.Another aspect: The casual photographer today (volume wise) more and more is a person using their smart phone for all their image captures, and the photos end up either on facebook, etc., and/or are never even printed, let along saved out to a computer hard drive. Also, when I do portraits recently, I find less and less enthusiasm when I metion using archival papers and inks to print their images. They want cheap, and usually, they want small. It seems the printed image is becoming less popular. Just my observation.So, I am betting that many stores just can't afford to tie up scarce capital stocking something that will not sell fast, if at all. As an example, I live in a town of some 35000 and an hour's drive to a one million population city, and cannot buy any of the papers in question without going on line, nor can I buy ink for either my Epson P800 or R2000. Even if I could, the sales taxes and markup would make them much more expensive. "The times, they are a chang'n"bob snow
Quote from: Mark D Segal on January 15, 2018, 04:57:45 pmDid some homework on this, and my sources indicate Hahnemuhle isn't going anywhere - here to stay; as they have been since the 1500s (ya, no inkjet back then however). The problems with inventory are downstream - retail, different reasons for different retailers - it's a mixed bag.Reading some of these tales of woe about the state of brick and mortar retail for paper supplies, I must say that here in Toronto we are comparatively fortunate. To name the most widely known - CCBC, Vistek, Henry's, Downtown Camera, Tricera, Amplis, Epson and Canon (these latter three on-line only but real local buildings with inventory in them) - we are well served with access to quite a range of materials - not everything of course, but a lot of variety. The Greater Toronto Area (GTA) is running close to 5 million these days and growing with both natural increase and immigration, but these outlets serve a larger catchment than the GTA.
Quote from: deanwork on January 15, 2018, 06:40:36 pmI love Canada.
Quote from: Mark D Segal on January 15, 2018, 07:43:28 pmNice, thanks - but we're far too small for a B&H - that place takes the cake for size, product and service; nothing else like it anywhere in the world I've been.
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