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Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« on: January 11, 2018, 08:55:23 pm »

About a year ago there was a short discussion of this paper.  I haven't seen any reviews of it. Has anyone been able to compare it with Epson Legacy Baryta (or Legacy Platine)?

Glenn
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2018, 09:00:04 pm »

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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2018, 09:14:25 pm »

Thanks Mark... I missed it in scanning your reviews!
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 09:12:55 am »

Welcome. Yes, I realize that's possible. When I'm doing eight at a time, it's easy to miss. Hope you find it helpful now that you have it.
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2018, 09:30:05 am »

Also look at Red River San Gabriel Semi Gloss 2.0. 

http://www.ronmartblog.com/2016/11/review-red-river-paper-san-gabriel.html
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 09:41:45 am »

Yes, I've reviewed this one as well: Red River. The review for this paper is near the end of the article.
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2018, 02:20:38 am »

About a year ago there was a short discussion of this paper.  I haven't seen any reviews of it. Has anyone been able to compare it with Epson Legacy Baryta (or Legacy Platine)?

Glenn

I have printed a little bit with the Canson Baryta Prestige.  It is a very heavy paper with a fair amount of curl.  I personally didn't like the more shimmery, lustre surface.  If you have tested the Canson Lustre vs the PhotoSatin papers that is similar to the difference between the Baryta Prestige vs. Platine.  Naturally, it is mostly a matter of taste but I simply didn't like the surface as well and the roll I purchased has gone unused.

FWIW.
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2018, 06:49:01 pm »

Yea I have some in 17x22 sheets that has gone unused. It's curling even in the box. My experience is all of these alpha cellulose gloss fiber papers curl like that and that also causes scratches in printing, especially in roll form. Platine is cotton and like Hahnemuhle cotton gloss papers such as Photorag Baryta, remain flat in portfolios.

A tip, if you want to flatten Platine from rolls quickly just use a hair drier and you won't need a dry mount press.


I have printed a little bit with the Canson Baryta Prestige.  It is a very heavy paper with a fair amount of curl.  I personally didn't like the more shimmery, lustre surface.  If you have tested the Canson Lustre vs the PhotoSatin papers that is similar to the difference between the Baryta Prestige vs. Platine.  Naturally, it is mostly a matter of taste but I simply didn't like the surface as well and the roll I purchased has gone unused.

FWIW.
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2018, 05:40:25 pm »

My experience has been very different than the others here. I really like the image quality of the paper compared to the Platine, but then again I'm printing on an older Epson 7800 vs the newer printers other people may have. The curl is a pain and it is very stiff as all Alpha-Cellulose papers are. But the satin texture does a very good job of minimizing reflections and the image clarity of the paper is the best I've ever seen.

So for all of you who have bought it and don't like it and find it gathering dust you're more than welcome to send it to me.  :)
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2018, 08:59:44 pm »

Yea I have some in 17x22 sheets that has gone unused. It's curling even in the box. My experience is all of these alpha cellulose gloss fiber papers curl like that and that also causes scratches in printing, especially in roll form. Platine is cotton and like Hahnemuhle cotton gloss papers such as Photorag Baryta, remain flat in portfolios.

A tip, if you want to flatten Platine from rolls quickly just use a hair drier and you won't need a dry mount press.

What do you do with the hair dryer to flatten the Platine?
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2024, 12:09:32 pm »

My experience has been very different than the others here. I really like the image quality of the paper compared to the Platine, but then again I'm printing on an older Epson 7800 vs the newer printers other people may have. The curl is a pain and it is very stiff as all Alpha-Cellulose papers are. But the satin texture does a very good job of minimizing reflections and the image clarity of the paper is the best I've ever seen.

So for all of you who have bought it and don't like it and find it gathering dust you're more than welcome to send it to me.  :)

My experience with the version II of this paper is similar. For B&W it is absolutely stunning. But it doesn't really matter because the curl is so pronounced it's very difficult to 1) Get the curl out and 2) Not damage/scratch the print trying to get the curl out. Someone mentioned a hair dryer technique. Would love to hear more about that. I can't see heat being great for the ink.
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2024, 12:33:33 pm »

I just bought a box of A3+ Prestige 2.  Absolutely flat in the box and no curling after printing.  But this is a relatively small size.  I do have a 17 inch roll which I haven't tried yet.  All these comments make me a bit nervous. But I have to say that I really like the results so far from my P5000.
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2024, 05:25:40 pm »

I just bought a box of A3+ Prestige 2.  Absolutely flat in the box and no curling after printing.  But this is a relatively small size.  I do have a 17 inch roll which I haven't tried yet.  All these comments make me a bit nervous. But I have to say that I really like the results so far from my P5000.

Keep us posted on the results of both. I'd be curious to know how the P5000 does and how pronounced the curl is on your 17" roll. Maybe I got a tight 24" roll or something.
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2024, 06:14:27 pm »

Well I have now printed about 15 prints from the A3+ box.  Absolutely no curling before, after printing or whilst sitting in the box.  All prints completely flat.

I have done 4 prints at A2 size from a 17 inch roll - Epson P5000, canned Canson Profile, 2880 dpi unilateral, platen gap set to 3mm, suction to standard.  And no real curling beyond what I experience with pretty much any other gloss paper - i.e. a very slight curl or more accurately not quite sitting completely flat.  In fact the first print I did was about 5 hours ago, I laid it flat on a table and now it has just a slight touch of curl.  No need to try and flatten it - it would take a mat without problems.

So I am very surprised at the comments here about curl.  By comparison I bought some rolls of Hahnemuhle Photo Gloss Baryta which I had heard might be a replacement for the Harmon by Hahnemule Gloss which I really liked.  Didn't really like the new paper and it had far, far more curl to it.  So I think I am going to like the Canson, although it is early days yet and the 4 prints from the roll I made obviously came from the front of the roll.  But from X2D files the colours are really good and the detail is exemplary.  So far so good from my end.
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Re: Canson-Infinity Baryta Prestige
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2024, 02:04:21 pm »

If I run a full roll from the opening, it behaves wonderfully, but if I dip in and out of a roll, once I get past 10m, I'm assuming head strikes on the first 75mm. It does depend on RH of storage and usage.

I'm still running on an 8400, but with the alpha cellulose papers, the closer to the core, the more unruly. GB2 is a big improvement over GB1
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