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http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/breaking-news-sony-announces-addition-of-uncompressed-14-bit-raw-still-image-capture-for-new-%CE%B1-cameras/

Sony has listened to the people. One more thing that makes these cameras viable contenders as DSLR replacements.
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2015, 08:24:16 am »

Good for Sony! 
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2015, 09:33:02 am »

Excellent news!

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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2015, 10:11:03 am »

Concerning that the link to the Sonyalphauniverse article (from the Sonyalpharumors article) that "broke" the news is broken.  Hope this is for real.

Edit: link to Sonyalphauniverse article now works.  Looks like the real deal!!!
« Last Edit: September 15, 2015, 12:37:23 pm by John Hollenberg »
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2015, 10:11:24 am »

Fantastic news!

Hopefully they also extend it to the original A7r.

Also I'd be interested to see DxO re-test the DR (and other measurements) of these cameras with the uncompressed raw, to see what sort of improvement it achieves.
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2015, 10:55:38 am »

One more thing that makes these cameras viable contenders as DSLR replacements.

note, that Synn did not say - MF replacements... 
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2015, 10:57:09 am »

Also I'd be interested to see DxO re-test the DR (and other measurements) of these cameras with the uncompressed raw, to see what sort of improvement it achieves.

I suggest http://www.photonstophotos.net instead, they (I mean BClaff in collaboration with JKasson) will retest for sure... with DxO I doubt
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2015, 10:57:52 am »

note, that Synn did not say - MF replacements...

Please take your trolling elsewhere. I started this thread to discuss a very positive bit of news. If you want to do yet another MF vs 135 discussion, take it to the MF forum. plenty of fish there to bite.

If you continue to try to derail this thread, I will report you to the moderators.
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2015, 11:35:59 am »

I'm thinking the firmware update will have more than just Uncompressed RAW.  Stay tuned.
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2015, 05:58:31 pm »

That sounds enigmatic, Kevin. Do spill the beans!
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2015, 09:24:23 pm »

Hopefully lossless compression is coming too.  Who was asking for uncompressed?
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2015, 10:57:43 am »

Also, hopefully, now that the A7s has been launched, the A9 (or whatever the new Sony pro-level body ends up being called) isn't far behind.

I want an A7rII with dual card slots, a bigger and more powerful battery and AF to match a non-sports SLR!
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2015, 07:01:46 am »

Also, hopefully, now that the A7s has been launched, the A9 (or whatever the new Sony pro-level body ends up being called) isn't far behind.

I want an A7rII with dual card slots, a bigger and more powerful battery and AF to match a non-sports SLR!

Make it 120mp please. ;)

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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2015, 08:12:37 am »

Crucially, is this for all release modes?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/breaking-news-sony-announces-addition-of-uncompressed-14-bit-raw-still-image-capture-for-new-%CE%B1-cameras/

Sony has listened to the people. One more thing that makes these cameras viable contenders as DSLR replacements.

Given Sony's history of arrogance this is very encouraging, perhaps they are learning from Fuji? This move definitely makes me more likely to replace my D800E with Sony when the time is right.
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2015, 12:07:18 pm »

Make it 120mp please. ;)

Cheers,
Bernard

I'd take 60MP with 16 stops of DR at base ISO (even if that means shooting at ISO 25)
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2015, 12:25:55 am »

Have they said anything about when this is coming, or which cameras it will be extended to? Hope it includes the original A7r...
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2015, 08:33:24 am »

Have they said anything about when this is coming, or which cameras it will be extended to? Hope it includes the original A7r...
According to Sony Japan, in mid-October for the a7R II.  They have not, at this point, announced or committed to anything beyond the a7S II which will come with the uncompressed option and the a7R II which will get the firmware update.
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2015, 04:29:32 pm »

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/breaking-news-sony-announces-addition-of-uncompressed-14-bit-raw-still-image-capture-for-new-%CE%B1-cameras/

Sony has listened to the people. One more thing that makes these cameras viable contenders as DSLR replacements.

Thumbs up to Sony!  Don't own one, but the more competition, the better we all end up.
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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2015, 02:18:46 am »

According to B&H, the firmware (version 2.0) for uncompressed 14-Bit RAW image capture will be available for download on October 19, 2015 from Sony’s e-support site (https://esupport.sony.com/). It will be a selectable feature within the a7r II's menu system.

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Re: 14 bit compressed and uncompressed lossless RAW comes to E mount cameras
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2015, 08:06:49 pm »

I'm guessing this may slow the FPS rate down. Curious how much?
Would be great if the update included a usb3 port;)
How in this day and age for someone trying to do a semi pro camera send out usb2 for 42 mp.
Can't imagine trying to tether this thing.
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