Luminous Landscape Forum
Equipment & Techniques => Cameras, Lenses and Shooting gear => Topic started by: synn on September 15, 2015, 08:16:09 am
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http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/breaking-news-sony-announces-addition-of-uncompressed-14-bit-raw-still-image-capture-for-new-%CE%B1-cameras/
Sony has listened to the people. One more thing that makes these cameras viable contenders as DSLR replacements.
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Good for Sony!
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Excellent news!
Cheers,
Bernard
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Concerning that the link to the Sonyalphauniverse article (from the Sonyalpharumors article) that "broke" the news is broken. Hope this is for real.
Edit: link to Sonyalphauniverse article now works. Looks like the real deal!!!
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Fantastic news!
Hopefully they also extend it to the original A7r.
Also I'd be interested to see DxO re-test the DR (and other measurements) of these cameras with the uncompressed raw, to see what sort of improvement it achieves.
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One more thing that makes these cameras viable contenders as DSLR replacements.
note, that Synn did not say - MF replacements...
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Also I'd be interested to see DxO re-test the DR (and other measurements) of these cameras with the uncompressed raw, to see what sort of improvement it achieves.
I suggest http://www.photonstophotos.net instead, they (I mean BClaff in collaboration with JKasson) will retest for sure... with DxO I doubt
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note, that Synn did not say - MF replacements...
Please take your trolling elsewhere. I started this thread to discuss a very positive bit of news. If you want to do yet another MF vs 135 discussion, take it to the MF forum. plenty of fish there to bite.
If you continue to try to derail this thread, I will report you to the moderators.
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I'm thinking the firmware update will have more than just Uncompressed RAW. Stay tuned.
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That sounds enigmatic, Kevin. Do spill the beans!
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Hopefully lossless compression is coming too. Who was asking for uncompressed?
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Also, hopefully, now that the A7s has been launched, the A9 (or whatever the new Sony pro-level body ends up being called) isn't far behind.
I want an A7rII with dual card slots, a bigger and more powerful battery and AF to match a non-sports SLR!
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Also, hopefully, now that the A7s has been launched, the A9 (or whatever the new Sony pro-level body ends up being called) isn't far behind.
I want an A7rII with dual card slots, a bigger and more powerful battery and AF to match a non-sports SLR!
Make it 120mp please. ;)
Cheers,
Bernard
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Crucially, is this for all release modes?
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/breaking-news-sony-announces-addition-of-uncompressed-14-bit-raw-still-image-capture-for-new-%CE%B1-cameras/
Sony has listened to the people. One more thing that makes these cameras viable contenders as DSLR replacements.
Given Sony's history of arrogance this is very encouraging, perhaps they are learning from Fuji? This move definitely makes me more likely to replace my D800E with Sony when the time is right.
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Make it 120mp please. ;)
Cheers,
Bernard
I'd take 60MP with 16 stops of DR at base ISO (even if that means shooting at ISO 25)
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Have they said anything about when this is coming, or which cameras it will be extended to? Hope it includes the original A7r...
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Have they said anything about when this is coming, or which cameras it will be extended to? Hope it includes the original A7r...
According to Sony Japan, in mid-October for the a7R II. They have not, at this point, announced or committed to anything beyond the a7S II which will come with the uncompressed option and the a7R II which will get the firmware update.
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http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/breaking-news-sony-announces-addition-of-uncompressed-14-bit-raw-still-image-capture-for-new-%CE%B1-cameras/
Sony has listened to the people. One more thing that makes these cameras viable contenders as DSLR replacements.
Thumbs up to Sony! Don't own one, but the more competition, the better we all end up.
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According to B&H, the firmware (version 2.0) for uncompressed 14-Bit RAW image capture will be available for download on October 19, 2015 from Sony’s e-support site (https://esupport.sony.com/). It will be a selectable feature within the a7r II's menu system.
Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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I'm guessing this may slow the FPS rate down. Curious how much?
Would be great if the update included a usb3 port;)
How in this day and age for someone trying to do a semi pro camera send out usb2 for 42 mp.
Can't imagine trying to tether this thing.
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Hi,
According to DPReview FPS will not be affected but buffer capacity will be reduced.
Best regards
Erik
I'm guessing this may slow the FPS rate down. Curious how much?
Would be great if the update included a usb3 port;)
How in this day and age for someone trying to do a semi pro camera send out usb2 for 42 mp.
Can't imagine trying to tether this thing.
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Can someone point out which camera settings make the camera go to 12 bit? Will the firmware get rid of this behavior?
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I was seriously considering to invest on an A7 (body only) as to combine it with a Cambo Actus and use it instead of an MFDB and the abscence of real raws was the major handicap I could find... I don't think that EVF cameras can replace OVF DSLRs for cases where one hand holds the camera, as I feel that a real optical autopsy is the only way to achieve the required "mind visualization", but for cases where the study of the subject/lighting (and hence the visualization) is performed without a need for one to look through the VF (as are the cases that the camera is on tripod) and the LV is used for the framing and DOF, I find that mirrorless cameras are better. Surely the combination of "real raw" A7Rii with an Actus, will rival any single shot MFDB/view camera combination by at least 95%... and only at a fraction of the cost... ;)
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I was seriously considering to invest on an A7 (body only) as to combine it with a Cambo Actus and use it instead of an MFDB and the abscence of real raws was the major handicap I could find... I don't think that EVF cameras can replace OVF DSLRs for cases where one hand holds the camera, as I feel that a real optical autopsy is the only way to achieve the required "mind visualization", but for cases where the study of the subject/lighting (and hence the visualization) is performed without a need for one to look through the VF (as are the cases that the camera is on tripod) and the LV is used for the framing and DOF, I find that mirrorless cameras are better. Surely the combination of "real raw" A7Rii with an Actus, will rival any single shot MFDB/view camera combination by at least 95%... and only at a fraction of the cost... ;)
As EVF's get better you will see how crazy this is.
It makes it a lot easier in low light to do whateveryou said is
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As EVF's get better you will see how crazy this is.
It makes it a lot easier in low light to do whateveryou said is
I never said anything about "easy" or "difficult"... I purely referred to visualization (and the creativity that is a consequence of it)... You talk about framing and focusing, which is completely different and to some (me among them) of trivial importance if it is done through an EVF or an OVF... Visualization is when one pre-visualizes the final print in his mind. It is the fundamental behind every art and thus for photo-graphy too... It's the first chapter, in A.Adams very first book...
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Firmware update is here, installed in about 15 minutes without problems. Link for those in the US:
http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=ILCE7RM2&template_id=1®ion_id=1&tab=download#/downloadTab
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I'll confirm that the firmware installed easily enough. The camera seems to be working just fine. You can select compressed or uncompressed. You will need to connect your camera to the computer for the update. I wish it could be done by SD card update. In any case all went well Took about 15 minutes.
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Great to hear that the new firmware is out and everything goes smoothly.
I need to wait until I finish my 2 weeks project, for consistency, and also until Phase One will update CO for uncompressed files, before try it for myself.
We hear that the new firmware also brings simultaneous output to HDMI and USB tethering, which was not possible previously.
Does anyone use this setup and can confirm that it's changed?
Regards,
ctz
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How do the results compare with the compressed version?
I'd like to see a repeat of the DXOMark tests with uncompressed RAWs, to see how it compares with the D810.
Would also like to see it implemented in other E-mount cameras. Otherwise my A7r will probably be going on sale soon, after less than two years of service...
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Anyone tried to tether the camera with OS X El Capitan and Lightroom or Sony Remote Camera Control??