Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... If you want true science, all you have to do is use Google...

Sure. I can also use Google to find a book in Chinese... or Arabic 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... Public health is, however, a natural concern of government...

There is my health, and there is your health. What is “public health” and what government has to do with it?

Since I don’t know your location, I can only guess that we have a vastly different views on what government is meant for. If you are a European, then I understand. Europeans still have a serfdom mentality in their genes. The power is always above, and they are only its loyal subjects: God - King/Queen - Government. America is built on the rejection of such a premise. Then again, you could be located on the American Left, where they are just wanna-be Europeans 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... the first major pandemic in 100 years....

Hardly.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

People insulted Joe for wanting to work and "exposing" others to get sick. People repeated over and over that what good is an economy when you're dead.  Others suggested we should wait until the entire Covid was gone before opening the economy.  Others posited that we should be listening to scientists only and not economists.  Life was more important than money.  There was no balance from these posters. Where have you been?

+1

[jeremyrh]

There is my health, and there is your health. What is “public health” and what government has to do with it?

Clean water - another communist plot :-(

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Clean water - another communist plot :-(

Countries with the strongest government role possible (i.e., communist ones) have had the worst ecological results.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Speaking of public health:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNa686BlMWr/?igshid=g4wflq7blfg1&fbclid=IwAR25S6taP8Tn736eGNP0yG5CRp6hE6pp1iiTDFdMqLrgiAjBe98mkejhKh4

"French farmers joining the fight against tyranny.... Dumping manure in front of the politician offices" 

[LesPalenik]

My wife and I spent hours on the web trying to track down disinfectants most that were backordered often for weeks and months.  That's because they were pushed by experts especially the CDC.  Everyone was buying them in America. To make light of their new protocol that just soap and water is sufficient is a huge change.  And yes this is to flag that so-called "expert" advice is often wrong or hyperventilated.  This gets people to throw up their hands and doubt much of their recommendations.

You are listening to wrong experts, Alan
Same nonsense as taking daily aspirin for your heart or drinking milk for your bones.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

You are listening to wrong experts, Alan
Same nonsense as taking daily aspirin for your heart or drinking milk for your bones.

 

Isn't that exactly what Alan has been saying? First they were for it, before they were against it, like John Kerry. First they were the right experts, then the wrong ones.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Perfect illustration:

[jeremyrh]

Countries with the strongest government role possible (i.e., communist ones) have had the worst ecological results.

I'm talking about drinking water. How is that private well in your back yard working out?

[jeremyrh]

Perfect illustration:

It is indeed - appeal to the authority of made-up images.

[jeremyrh]

If something goes up and down in certain shorter periods, it is not exponential overall. Obviously, it is in the up phase.

That's why the statement was accompanied by the caveat that growth is exponential IF NOT CONSTRAINED.

Besides, the apparent growth in cases is more of a factor of increased testing, especially around holidays (travel-related testing). Initially, you couldn’t even get a test if you didn’t have symptoms. Over time, private labs started offering cheaper tests and people got curios.

The increased dying is less easy to explain that way.

[Robert Roaldi]

There is my health, and there is your health. What is “public health” and what government has to do with it?

You're right, there is no society, there are only individuals, like Thatcher said (or is often quoted to have said, I have no idea if it was taken out of context). Trouble is there is society and there are many aspects to public health. Is it difficult to live with those kinds of blatant contradictions?

... If you are a European, then I understand. Europeans still have a serfdom mentality in their genes. ...

This again? In their genes, is it. Thanks for the laugh.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vera+sharav+youtube&atb=v244-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D5_Af9GDaklQ

"Vera Sharav is a medical activist and a holocaust survivor. In her testimony before the German Corona Inquiry Committee she draws comparisons to the Nazi regime"

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

That's why the statement was accompanied by the caveat that growth is exponential IF NOT CONSTRAINED...

Yes, true. But the "constraints" were laughable, as they are right now, as we speak.

Right now, restaurants and shopping centers are closed. Restaurants, which had been half-empty anyway, with all the government measures followed, tables set at a distance, disinfectant on the table, waiters and entering and leaving patrons with masks. Shopping centers, where you'd have a few people at any given time inside a store, and quickly passing by each other between stores. All wearing masks. Those were closed. But everything else is working. Offices, companies, factories. Public transport. Supermarkets. Huge supermarkets, like Lidl (equivalent to Costco in the US), working, forming huge lines where people would stand for 10-15 minutes in close proximity. Those have been open. Such a restraint.

[Robert Roaldi]

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vera+sharav+youtube&atb=v244-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D5_Af9GDaklQ

"Vera Sharav is a medical activist and a holocaust survivor. In her testimony before the German Corona Inquiry Committee she draws comparisons to the Nazi regime"

I like what you did there, squeezed in a Godwin in an almost acceptable way.

My reaction is, so what. It's a big world, you can find someone with any opinion you want.

Personally, if you can't tell the difference between a fascist regime and temporary safety measures, I think you need to re-examine the thought processes that led you to this point.

[Alan Klein]

You are listening to wrong experts, Alan
Same nonsense as taking daily aspirin for your heart or drinking milk for your bones.

The CDC who I;ve followed the most,  is the wrong expert regarding disinfectants cleaning surfaces?  So who should I listen to? Trump?  Biden?

[Robert Roaldi]

The CDC who I;ve followed the most,  is the wrong expert regarding disinfectants cleaning surfaces?  So who should I listen to? Trump?  Biden?

Yes.

[Alan Klein]

Countries with the strongest government role possible (i.e., communist ones) have had the worst ecological results.

Chernoble?