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« Reply #3740 on: December 07, 2020, 09:42:03 am »

Kelly Loeffler calls Raphael Warnock a 'radical liberal' during Georgia Senate debate

OMG! OMG! She called him a radical liberal. OMG! OMG!

I am not going to bother posting a link. There is no information in the story. It is from Fox News, hence the headline. These are the candidates for one of the senate seats in Georgia subject to a runoff election on January 5th with the majority of the senate hanging in the balance. Kelly Loeffler is a billionaire's wife, and Raphael Warnock is the pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, where Martin Luther King was pastor prior to his assassination in 1968.

The GOP candidate for the other senate seat, David Perdue, got taken to the woodshed by his challenger, John Ossoff, in the last debate, and refused to debate him again. It seems Perdue was a veritable day trader during his first term in office, racking up 2500+ stock trades involving companies that came before his committee. That accounted for something like a third of all trades by the other 99 senators combined.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3741 on: December 07, 2020, 10:43:18 am »

Let me guess: are these armed protesters left wing or right wing?

Armed pro-Trump protesters gather outside Michigan elections chief's home

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/07/michigan-elections-chief-trump-protesters

This is the state whose governor a contingent of right wing loonies planned to kidnap and kill a couple of months ago. That was because of COVID restrictions they weren't too happy about. This time around it is because the secretary of state certified Biden the winner of the election. Anything will do as an excuse to get dressed up in camo and go around waving loaded AR15s menacing your elected officials. God bless America.
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« Reply #3742 on: December 07, 2020, 11:10:51 am »

Let me guess: are these armed protesters left wing or right wing?

Armed pro-Trump protesters gather outside Michigan elections chief's home

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/07/michigan-elections-chief-trump-protesters

This is the state whose governor a contingent of right wing loonies planned to kidnap and kill a couple of months ago. That was because of COVID restrictions they weren't too happy about. This time around it is because the secretary of state certified Biden the winner of the election. Anything will do as an excuse to get dressed up in camo and go around waving loaded AR15s. God bless America.

Don't worry.  We've been assured multiple times that these are just law abiding citizens coincidentally enjoying their right to bear arms en masse outside of a state official's home.  It's not like it's a planned attempt to intimidate or anything.  Heck, if you ask, I bet you'd find out that these fine folks didn't even know anyone else was going to be there coincidentally enjoying their right to bear arms.  It's really no different than a bunch of people that don't know each having coffee at Starbucks at the same time each day.

For future reference, you know they're bent on violence if you catch them unloading a van that has *pre printed* signs.  That confirms something commie is afoot. 

Don't be such a lib, Lib.
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« Reply #3743 on: December 07, 2020, 11:19:16 am »

Working hard for the American people right up until the bitter end. I didn't know anybody still played tennis. I thought that was so 1980s.

Melania Trump's Tennis Pavilion Announcement Brings Outrage: 'How Many ICU Beds Will It Hold?'

https://www.newsweek.com/melania-trumps-tennis-pavilion-announcement-brings-outrage-how-many-icu-beds-will-it-hold-1552855

For those whose memories may have faded, in 1980 at Wimbledon, Bjorn Borg defeated John McEnroe to win the men's singles, and Evonne Goolagong defeated Chris Evert to win the woman's singles. I'm pretty sure everyone was using wooden racquets.

Give it a couple of days and someone will release secret telephone recordings of Melania saying: "Who gives a fuck about tennis?"
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3744 on: December 07, 2020, 11:37:03 am »

I'd be surprised if that's the only bat-borne pathogen Rudy is harboring.

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« Reply #3745 on: December 07, 2020, 11:45:49 am »

Speaking of Sidney Powell, her kraken lawsuit got tossed in federal district court in Michigan. On to the Third Circuit on appeal. I'll quote the article at length since it is behind a paywall.

"A federal judge in Michigan denied ex-Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell’s request to decertify the state’s election result and slammed her claims of a vast election-fraud conspiracy as an assault on hard-fought voting rights."

"The suit against Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson is one of those Powell, who is no longer associated with President Donald Trump’s legal team, filed last month and referred to as releasing the Kraken, a mythical sea monster depicted in the 1981 fantasy film “Clash of the Titans.”"

"Calling Powell’s claims of voting irregularities “an amalgamation of theories, conjecture, and speculation,” U.S. District Judge Linda V. Parker said in a ruling on Monday that the suit didn’t put forth the kind of evidence that would justify placing the election results in doubt to allow inspections of voting machines, software and security footage of polling places."

"“They seek relief that is stunning in its scope and breathtaking in its reach,” Parker wrote. “If granted, the relief would disenfranchise the votes of the more than 5.5 million Michigan citizens who, with dignity, hope, and a promise of a voice, participated in the 2020 General Election.”"

"The judge added that Powell’s suit, which alleges foreign agents from Iran and China infiltrated voting machines and switched votes from Trump to President-elect Joe Biden with help from “communist money” and hundreds of corrupt Democratic election workers, seemed less about seeking relief in court than undermining “people’s faith in the democratic process and their trust in our government.”"

"“The people have spoken,” said Parker, a Barack Obama appointee."

"Powell didn’t immediately respond to a message seeking comment."

"The decision adds to the long string of legal defeats by the president’s campaign and its allies as they seek to upend the results. Trump lost Michigan by more than 150,000 votes. Georgia officials asked a judge to toss out Powell’s parallel case in that state on Saturday."

"Parker ruled Powell had waited much too long to file her Nov. 25 Michigan complaint, noting the suit alleges irregularities existed before Election Day, with some claims about voting-machines dating back more than a decade."

"“If Plaintiffs had legitimate concerns about the election machines and software, they could have filed this lawsuit well before the 2020 General Election -- yet they sat back and did nothing,” the judge said. “While plaintiffs delayed, the ballots were cast; the votes were counted; and the results were certified.”"

"Parker also said Trump voters who claim to have witnessed vote-switching or counting of improper ballots by poll workers and whose affidavits Powell submitted as evidence used words like “believe” and “may” to equivocate."
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« Reply #3746 on: December 07, 2020, 12:21:12 pm »

Speaking of Sidney Powell, her kraken lawsuit got tossed in federal district court in Michigan. On to the Third Circuit on appeal. I'll quote the article at length since it is behind a paywall.

"A federal judge in Michigan denied ex-Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell’s request to decertify the state’s election result and slammed her claims of a vast election-fraud conspiracy as an assault on hard-fought voting rights."

"The suit against Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson is one of those Powell, who is no longer associated with President Donald Trump’s legal team, filed last month and referred to as releasing the Kraken, a mythical sea monster depicted in the 1981 fantasy film “Clash of the Titans.”"

"Calling Powell’s claims of voting irregularities “an amalgamation of theories, conjecture, and speculation,” U.S. District Judge Linda V. Parker said in a ruling on Monday that the suit didn’t put forth the kind of evidence that would justify placing the election results in doubt to allow inspections of voting machines, software and security footage of polling places."

"“They seek relief that is stunning in its scope and breathtaking in its reach,” Parker wrote. “If granted, the relief would disenfranchise the votes of the more than 5.5 million Michigan citizens who, with dignity, hope, and a promise of a voice, participated in the 2020 General Election.”"

"The judge added that Powell’s suit, which alleges foreign agents from Iran and China infiltrated voting machines and switched votes from Trump to President-elect Joe Biden with help from “communist money” and hundreds of corrupt Democratic election workers, seemed less about seeking relief in court than undermining “people’s faith in the democratic process and their trust in our government.”"

"“The people have spoken,” said Parker, a Barack Obama appointee."

"Powell didn’t immediately respond to a message seeking comment."

"The decision adds to the long string of legal defeats by the president’s campaign and its allies as they seek to upend the results. Trump lost Michigan by more than 150,000 votes. Georgia officials asked a judge to toss out Powell’s parallel case in that state on Saturday."

"Parker ruled Powell had waited much too long to file her Nov. 25 Michigan complaint, noting the suit alleges irregularities existed before Election Day, with some claims about voting-machines dating back more than a decade."

"“If Plaintiffs had legitimate concerns about the election machines and software, they could have filed this lawsuit well before the 2020 General Election -- yet they sat back and did nothing,” the judge said. “While plaintiffs delayed, the ballots were cast; the votes were counted; and the results were certified.”"

"Parker also said Trump voters who claim to have witnessed vote-switching or counting of improper ballots by poll workers and whose affidavits Powell submitted as evidence used words like “believe” and “may” to equivocate."

Was Michigan the case where information of "biblical" importance was going to be released or was that somewhere else?

Failed suits are one thing, but these are spectacular failures. It all has got to be a con to get those donations rolling in. These are worse legal antics than from ambulance chasers. Is it possible to hire a worse legal team?

Here is an opinion piece that makes reference to where those donation dollars are going, https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/528973-juan-williams-trump-is-feasting-on-a-dying-gop.
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« Reply #3747 on: December 07, 2020, 12:29:18 pm »

Was Michigan the case where information of "biblical" importance was going to be released or was that somewhere else?

The "kraken" and "biblical" lawsuits are the same. The principal attorneys are Sidney Powell and L. Lin Wood. Initially filed in Georgia and Michigan, they have also been filed in Wisconsin and Arizona. None of them are going anywhere.

Powell and Wood held a rally in Atlanta a couple of days ago in which they urged Georgia Republicans to boycott the Senate run-off election on January 5th because all the voting machines are rigged. Trump nuts are in a quandary: they believe the voting machines are rigged because Trump lost, yet Trump wants them to use the same machines to vote for the GOP candidates in the Senate runoff. This is the kind of cognitive dissonance that could freeze them in their tracks.

By the way, with Giuliani in the hospital, there is really no one to take over the role of prosecuting attorney in those election fraud hearings he was holding in front of GOP members of battleground state legislatures. Next in line would be Jenna Ellis, senior legal counsel to the Trump campaign, but her litigation experience appears to be limited to traffic court in some God forsaken place in Colorado 6-8 years ago. So we have probably seen the last of those hearings. It's too bad; the witnesses were providing such great fodder for the SNL team.
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« Reply #3748 on: December 07, 2020, 12:30:24 pm »

Let me guess: are these armed protesters left wing or right wing?

And who did they actually kill:
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« Reply #3749 on: December 07, 2020, 12:36:33 pm »

I have a theory. Maybe the releasing of the Kraken was done with their star Michigan witness? Before that hearing?
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« Reply #3750 on: December 07, 2020, 01:12:43 pm »

Trump ratchets up pace of executions before Biden inaugural

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-cementing-death-penalty-legacy-biden-inaugural-74579070

"As Donald Trump’s presidency winds down, his administration is ratcheting up the pace of federal executions despite a surge of coronavirus cases in prisons, announcing plans for five starting Thursday and concluding just days before the Jan. 20 inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden."

"If the five go off as planned, it will make 13 executions since July when the Republican administration resumed putting inmates to death after a 17-year hiatus and will cement Trump's legacy as the most prolific execution president in over 130 years. He'll leave office having executed about a quarter of all federal death-row prisoners, despite waning support for capital punishment among both Democrats and Republicans."
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« Reply #3751 on: December 07, 2020, 01:13:40 pm »

The judge said “a belief is not evidence”
Sometimes on these forums  ;D
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A federal judge in Michigan on Monday denied a Republican effort to undo the certification of President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the presidential election in the state and rejected every aspect of the case, one of the lawsuits filed by President Donald Trump supporter Sidney Powell.

The allegations of fraud were based on “nothing but speculation and conjecture,” U.S. District Court Judge Linda Parker said. She added that the closest the lawsuit got to alleging that ballots cast for Trump were changed by the voting machinery to votes for Biden is this statement in an affidavit: “I believe some of these workers were changing votes that had been cast for Donald Trump and other Republican candidates.”

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« Reply #3752 on: December 07, 2020, 02:57:28 pm »

I guess we'll just have to see what facts emerge.

Family of Black Ohio man shot dead by white officer accuses police of lying about killing

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/07/casey-goodson-jr-family-black-ohio-man-shot-dead-white-police-officer
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« Reply #3753 on: December 07, 2020, 03:17:45 pm »

A federal district court in Georgia has now dismissed the kraken voter fraud lawsuit in that jurisdiction, dealing Powell and friends their second loss of the morning. An appeal will lie with the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals.

Sidney Powell 'Kraken' lawsuit dismissed in Georgia after defeat in Michigan

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sidney-powell-kraken-lawsuit-dismissed-georgia-michigan

One Twitter user, mocking the affidavits attached to the complaint, tweeted:

"It's a statistically anomalous number of losses. Nobody could actually lose that many lawsuits that rapidly. There was a sudden, unexplained Friday night "spike" in litigation losses, followed by another one Monday."
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« Reply #3754 on: December 07, 2020, 03:47:02 pm »

Now sheriffs in Michigan are getting in on the action. Filing an election fraud lawsuit must be some kind of fraternity initiation ritual or something. An affidavit attached to the complaint is from a Barry County woman who said she was concerned because she was given a sharpie to use to mark her ballot. I think they litigated the sharpie issue in Arizona already. It's not a problem. Certainly, no one is getting any style points for originality on this one.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/529066-michigan-sheriff-who-suggested-whitmer-kidnapping-could-be-citizens

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« Reply #3755 on: December 07, 2020, 04:34:19 pm »

Now sheriffs in Michigan are getting in on the action. Filing an election fraud lawsuit must be some kind of fraternity initiation ritual or something. An affidavit attached to the complaint is from a Barry County woman who said she was concerned because she was given a sharpie to use to mark her ballot. I think they litigated the sharpie issue in Arizona already. It's not a problem. Certainly, no one is getting any style points for originality on this one.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/529066-michigan-sheriff-who-suggested-whitmer-kidnapping-could-be-citizens

Are Sharpies manufactured in China? Or by Hugo Chavez? What colour Sharpie, do they say?
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« Reply #3756 on: December 07, 2020, 05:08:24 pm »

Are Sharpies manufactured in China? Or by Hugo Chavez? What colour Sharpie, do they say?

I don't know where sharpies are manufactured. Could be China. China makes everything else we buy. There is some writing on the barrel of the pen but I can't read it even with my 4x loupe. It's a U.S. company headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia. I don't think even the kraken could tie sharpies to Hugo Chavez. Doesn't mean they couldn't cook up some affidavit to that effect. You would probably just need to email old Kayleigh McEnany for one. Apparently both blue and black sharpies work fine on ballots, though I can't say I have ever seen a blue sharpie in the wild.
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« Reply #3757 on: December 07, 2020, 05:26:32 pm »

My black Sharpie fine point says "Made in USA."
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« Reply #3758 on: December 07, 2020, 05:29:44 pm »

My black Sharpie fine point says "Made in USA."

I may need to get my loupe adjusted.
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« Reply #3759 on: December 07, 2020, 06:00:22 pm »

Michael Flynn, Trump's former national security advisor, who lied to the FBI about pre-inauguration contacts with Russia, and who Trump pardoned a couple of weeks ago, is on his post pardon book tour, and has gone full QAnon:

"Former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn called into a QAnon conspiracy theory podcast on Friday, but said that he could only speak for a few minutes. He had a surprising reason to cut the call short, he explained. He was avoiding assassins and had to stay on the move."

“I gotta make sure I’m a moving target, because these sons-of-a-guns, they’re after me, in a literal and a figurative sense,” Flynn said."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-flynn-goes-full-qanon-in-his-post-pardon-media-tour

Did I mention that Sidney Powell, the kraken lawyer, was his lawyer as well.

This is the guy some around here want me to leave alone because he has gone through so much. Poor Michael Flynn. The martyr of Trump World.
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