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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #2740 on: November 28, 2020, 05:09:27 pm »

Japan has had less suicides this year than in any of the previous 10 years.
And there's this too, and the trend was well before 'lock downs" of which Japan was quite mild in producing:

https://japantoday.com/category/national/suicide-leading-cause-of-death-among-young-people-in-japan-statistics-show
Suicide leading cause of death among young people in Japan, statistics show
Nov. 1  06:00 am JST  23 Comments
By Casey Baseel, SoraNews24
TOKYO
A white paper published last week by the cabinet contained some troubling suicide statistics. Using data collected during 2019, there were 659 cases of suicides among people aged 10-19, an increase of 60 over the previous year.

This raised the rate of suicides per 100,000 people in the 10-19 age group to 3.1, an annual increase of 0.3 and the highest on record since such statistics began being recorded (as a side note, the Japanese language has no word for “teenager,” which is why the demographic is set as 10-19). Another sobering point of the report: suicide was the leading cause of death among Japanese citizens aged 15-39, and when compared against WHO statistics, Japan is the only economically advanced country where suicide is the leading cause of death among those 15-34.

Suicide being the primary cause of death among Japanese teens and young adults isn’t an entirely new situation for Japan, however. The country has long had very low levels of violent crime and street violence, and a reliance on extremely safe public transportation means fewer traffic accidents, all of which are disproportionally large causes for death among young-and-healthy demographics in any other nations. Factor in Japan’s extensive health care system and national health insurance, and disease is also far less of a threat to young Japanese people than it could be otherwise.


People who post snippets from Fox, attempting to make a point without any further study show the level's they will NOT go to make a valid point. 
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #2741 on: November 28, 2020, 05:09:49 pm »

Japan has had less suicides this year than in any of the previous 10 years.

TWHANNNNGGGggg!

And another attempt by Fox News to stir up chaos dies in plain view.
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« Reply #2742 on: November 28, 2020, 05:17:50 pm »

TWHANNNNGGGggg!

And another attempt by Fox News to stir up chaos dies in plain view.
And those that so often regurgitate it.🤮
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #2743 on: November 28, 2020, 05:30:30 pm »

United States Records 205,000 COVID-19 Cases in a Day, Highest-Ever Daily Count on Friday.
Despite the worsening national prognosis, President Donald Trump has repeatedly said the country is “rounding the corner” on the pandemic.The virus has thus far infected and killed more than 13 million Americans and killed upwards of 265,000.
And Japan has a problem with its people dying?
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #2744 on: November 28, 2020, 05:36:15 pm »

Japan has had less suicides this year than in any of the previous 10 years.

"TOKYO (Reuters) - The number of suicides in Japan rose in October for the fourth month in a row to the highest level in more than five years"

In other words,  there was a downtrend in the previous 10 years, but it is rising again as of recently.

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« Reply #2746 on: November 28, 2020, 05:48:03 pm »

"TOKYO (Reuters) - The number of suicides in Japan rose in October for the fourth month in a row to the highest level in more than five years"

In other words,  there was a downtrend in the previous 10 years, but it is rising again as of recently.

A bad October. Let's see how things pan out.

As I said, Japan will likely have less suicides in 2020 than in any of the previous 10 years. So hardly the suicide epidemic that the anti-lockdowners predicted. (And the figures are the same in all Western countries - no increase in suicide.)

Japan suicides in 2020: 17,000 (to date).

Previous years:

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #2747 on: November 28, 2020, 05:50:06 pm »

Selective editing (CBS) also state;
Japan has grappled with high suicide rates for a long time and for complex reasons, but the overall numbers had been on a downward trend this year, until they reversed course in July — possibly as the initial "we're all in this together" pandemic positivity waned, and the buffering impact of public subsidies disappeared.
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« Reply #2748 on: November 28, 2020, 05:52:26 pm »

Selective editing (CBS) also state...

The same as the Fox article:

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Japan has historically had high rates of suicide, but the numbers had begun trending downward.

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« Reply #2749 on: November 28, 2020, 06:05:06 pm »

I don't think there is any question that Japan has a high suicide rate. I just didn't think the Fox News article made a very good case for the recent rise being related to COVID. Maybe there is better data out there which make the case better. Of course, it you are anti-lockdown, I can see you jumping all over the Fox News article. Sort of like the Genevieve Briand article.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #2750 on: November 28, 2020, 06:15:49 pm »

* Bonus points for referring to "deep state officials"—which has a scary ring to it—otherwise known as county clerks.

I referred as such to the authors of the "most secure election in history" claim, not county clerks.

That would be: The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC), Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), U.S. Election Assistance Commission, National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS), National Association of State Election Directors (NASED), and the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC). The statement was jointly issued by all of the foregoing entities. I'm still giving you bonus points for making that sound like some scary bunch.

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

From a logical perspective, "the most secure in history" says absolutely nothing meaningful, let alone confirms it was secure...

“When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors."

Second, they gave no basis for their conclusion. Just claims.

“Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020."

“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”

It may be a good time to invest in tinfoil stocks.

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/10/20/statement-cisa-director-krebs-security-and-resilience-2020-elections

"Cyber actors can do this by taking advantage of the fact that sometimes it’s not clear how technology is used in elections. For starters, election officials use computers to improve both your ability to vote and the accuracy of the vote itself. But in doing so, election officials understand that these systems aren’t perfect, and sometimes things breaks, malfunction, or could even be hacked.

The election experience is designed to ensure that technology isn’t a single point of failure and there are measures in place to ensure you can vote and your vote is counted correctly. You should have confidence in the integrity of the process and don't overreact to claims that exaggerate the importance of insignificant events."

"A few things you can do – first, look for trusted sources of information, like election officials.

Second, only share information from trusted sources. And third, discourage others from sharing sensational but unverified information. Remember, our adversaries are trying to make you lose faith in our electoral process and ultimately in our democracy. 

“The last line of defense in election security is you, the American voter — so be prepared for efforts that call into question the legitimacy of the election." 

https://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol
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« Reply #2751 on: November 28, 2020, 06:33:41 pm »

I learned something interesting about the "release the kraken" voter fraud lawsuits Sidney Powell filed in Georgia and Michigan. Apparently they were typed up, if not drafted, by an attorney and former Trump campaigner over at HUD named Juli Haller. Your government dollars at work.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/sidney-powells-kraken-lawsuit-didnt-get-much-better-when-it-was-actually-filed/

I haven't seen much news on the lawsuits since they were filed on Wednesday. Perhaps there will be something in the Sunday papers.

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #2752 on: November 28, 2020, 06:52:07 pm »

I don't think there is any question that Japan has a high suicide rate. I just didn't think the Fox News article made a very good case for the recent rise being related to COVID.
Exactly. Japan has made a good case at avoiding the large scale rate of death from Covid-19 compared to the US, which isn't the point Slobodan wants to make or accept. Bringing up suicide and the possibility, again possibility it's due to his continuing undefined ”lock down” is the agenda for again changing the subject.
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« Reply #2753 on: November 28, 2020, 07:11:44 pm »

Btw, are you (they) telling me that tiny red line represents 9/11?

It looks like a chart prepared by an American think tank published in a U.K. economics magazine. I can't see the legend for the y-axis on that chart. It may be number of incidents and not magnitude. What does that have to do with propaganda? Or anything else for that matter.
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« Reply #2754 on: November 28, 2020, 07:15:18 pm »

I can even buy that it was an honest mistake. It doesn't change the fact that it happened and that the media initially got a switched-vote tally.

So what? The error was corrected and the media got the corrected tally. Life goes on. What's the problem?
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« Reply #2755 on: November 28, 2020, 08:16:58 pm »

Team Trump loses another one, this time in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. Trump was trying to set aside Act 77 which was the mail-in ballot law.

"The court was unanimous in deciding against Kelly and others, and refusing to block vote certification on Saturday. Five of the seven judges wrote that they believed the lawsuit had been filed far too late, a year after absentee voting procedures had been established in the state and weeks after millions of Pennsylvanians voted in good faith."

"It is beyond cavil that Petitioners failed to act with due diligence in presenting the instant claim," the court wrote in its majority opinion."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/28/politics/pennsylvania-state-supreme-court-election-case/index.html

I learned a new word: cavil - make petty or unnecessary objections.
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« Reply #2756 on: November 28, 2020, 08:23:20 pm »

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Team Trump loses another one, this time in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. Trump was trying to set aside Act 77 which was the mail-in ballot law.

From WSJ; former team Trump (still in the bubble):
https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-he-loses-trump-will-concede-gracefully-11604772109
If He Loses, Trump Will Concede Gracefully
He’ll fight hard to make sure the results are fair, and in the end he’ll accept the result whatever it is.
By Mick Mulvaney
Nov. 7, 2020 1:01 pm ET
... I have every expectation that Mr. Trump will be, act and speak like a great president should—win or lose.

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« Reply #2757 on: November 28, 2020, 08:25:27 pm »

From WSJ; former team Trump (still in the bubble):
https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-he-loses-trump-will-concede-gracefully-11604772109
If He Loses, Trump Will Concede Gracefully
He’ll fight hard to make sure the results are fair, and in the end he’ll accept the result whatever it is.
By Mick Mulvaney
Nov. 7, 2020 1:01 pm ET
... I have every expectation that Mr. Trump will be, act and speak like a great president should—win or lose.


That is an opinion piece authored by Mick Mulvaney, Trump's former chief of staff. He should know better.
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« Reply #2758 on: November 28, 2020, 09:23:14 pm »

Team Trump loses another one, this time in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. Trump was trying to set aside Act 77 which was the mail-in ballot law.

"The court was unanimous in deciding against Kelly and others, and refusing to block vote certification on Saturday. Five of the seven judges wrote that they believed the lawsuit had been filed far too late, a year after absentee voting procedures had been established in the state and weeks after millions of Pennsylvanians voted in good faith."

"It is beyond cavil that Petitioners failed to act with due diligence in presenting the instant claim," the court wrote in its majority opinion."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/28/politics/pennsylvania-state-supreme-court-election-case/index.html

I learned a new word: cavil - make petty or unnecessary objections.

Have they run out of states in which to sue yet?

Why doesn't Trump hire better lawyers?

Did he golf today?
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« Reply #2759 on: November 28, 2020, 09:33:34 pm »

It looks like a chart prepared by an American think tank published in a U.K. economics magazine. I can't see the legend for the y-axis on that chart. It may be number of incidents and not magnitude. What does that have to do with propaganda? Or anything else for that matter.

The chart is a repost from
https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=135408.msg1192460#msg1192460
where there is an accompanying text and a link to a detailed description of the methodology.

Reposted to debunk the propaganda that Slobodan so repetitively promulgates.

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