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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #17900 on: February 28, 2026, 07:21:30 pm »

they bring the "end of times" with "hell and brimstone"
second coming to follow ? ??
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« Reply #17901 on: February 28, 2026, 10:17:36 pm »

OK, here's the context. Devoid of distractions, straw man arguments, for the avoidance of answers to questions that would prove these distractions!

Wind and solar are the fastest-growing sources of electricity in history ... Wind and solar have expanded from 0.2% of the global electricity mix in 2000 to 13.4% in 2023! Worldwide solar and wind power generation has outpaced electricity demand this year (2025*), and for the first time on record, renewable energy combined generated more power than coal, according to a new analysis. Solar power is the fastest-growing energy source globally and in the U.S. over the last decade. Driven by a 99.9% reduction in costs since 1975, solar capacity increased over eightfold in the U.S. between 2014 and 2023. It has led to the addition of new power generation capacity for multiple consecutive years.

The reasons for this adoption have been explained factually multiple times here (cost/LCOE, time to build, safety, renewability, and more, including the effects on the climate).

Pay attention to the facts as they are, not as you wish them to be.
Got any photos to show us, Ray? Help yourself out of the hole.  ;)

*https://apnews.com/article/climate-renewable-wind-solar-coal-electricity-demand-abf7b587b038bf7580de1baee6576bbc

"-Pay attention to the facts as they are, not as you wish them to be."

Good point! This highlights the difference between us. You accept as true facts what a group of 'so-called' authorities on a subject claim to be facts, whereas I try to consider all sides of the issue, and question the claimed facts if something doesn't seem quite right, using reason and logic.

I get all my information about climate, weather predictions, cost of energy resources, harmful and positive effects, and so on, from studies available on the internet, or from reading books relatated to the issue, and of course personal experience when that's relevant.

An example of personal experience, is the uncertainty of weather forecasts just a few days into the future. Sometimes, they are completely wrong.

I have no objection to the development of alternative sources of energy. But, I do object to the misrepresentation of the true costs.
Roof-top solar and battery storage has recently surged in Australia. Being curious about the role of government subsidies, and whether these 'home' solar systems with battery storage would be a good investment for home-owners if there were no government subsidies, I did an internet search, and here are the results.

“Without any government subsidies, the return on investment (ROI) for a combined rooftop solar and battery storage system in Australia is currently estimated between 8 and 15 years.

While solar panels alone typically pay for themselves within 3 to 6 years, the high upfront cost of batteries significantly extends the total payback period when no rebates are applied.

Estimated Payback Periods (No Subsidies)
The timeframe varies based on your location, energy usage, and the size of the system:
Solar Panels (Standalone): 3–6 years without subsidies, though most Australian systems currently benefit from federal STC rebates that reduce this further.

Battery Storage (Standalone): 8–15 years. Modern lithium batteries often have a 10-year warranty, meaning the system may only just break even within its guaranteed lifespan without financial assistance.

Combined System: 8–12 years. High-usage households (e.g., those with electric vehicles or high evening air conditioning use) generally see faster returns.

Current Market Costs (February 2026)
Without subsidies, you would be paying the full “gross” cost of the equipment and installation:
Component Typical Capacity Estimated Gross Cost (No Rebates)
Solar PV System 6.6 kW $5,500 – $9,000
Battery Storage 10 kWh $9,000 – $15,000
Combined Total N/A $14,500 – $24,000+"


I actually accept that roof-top solar will become a more sensible and practical option in the near future, especially as less expensive Sodium-ion battery technology develops. I think it's far more sensible to use the 'free' space of a roof for solar panels, which also do not require long transmission lines, rather than building solar farms with long transmission lines.

However, we should not ignore the 'claimed' fact that:

"Solar and battery manufacturing are currently heavily dependent on coal, primarily because production is concentrated in regions with coal-dominant energy grids.

Globally, coal generates over 60% of the electricity used for solar PV manufacturing. This is significantly higher than coal's roughly 36% share of total global power generation.

This dependency is largely due to China's dominance in the sector, where it produces over 90% of the world's polysilicon.
Beyond electricity, coal is used as a reducing agent in silicon smelting. It reacts with silicon oxide to produce metallurgical-grade silicon.

Approximately 77% to 85% of the world's lithium-ion batteries are manufactured in China, where coal is the primary energy source."

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« Reply #17902 on: February 28, 2026, 11:00:48 pm »

"-Pay attention to the facts as they are, not as you wish them to be."
Good point! This highlights the difference between us. You accept as true facts what a group of 'so-called' authorities on a subject claim to be facts, whereas I try to consider all sides of the issue, and question the claimed facts if something doesn't seem quite right, using reason and logic.
“Given a choice between their worldview and the facts, it's always interesting how many people toss the facts”.
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Still unable to answer my simple last question.
Still unable to provide photography.
Still able to continue posting distractions. 🥵
Still digging a deep hole.🕳️
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« Reply #17903 on: March 01, 2026, 12:24:44 am »

“Given a choice between their worldview and the facts, it's always interesting how many people toss the facts”.
Rebecca Solnit

Still unable to answer my simple last question.
Still unable to provide photography.
Still able to continue posting distractions. 🥵
Still digging a deep hole.🕳️

Those are certainly excellent examples of distractions on your part.  ;D
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« Reply #17904 on: March 01, 2026, 08:56:08 am »

Those are certainly excellent examples of distractions on your part.  ;D

Still unable to answer my simple last question.
Still unable to provide photography.
Still able to continue posting distractions. 🥵
Still digging a deep hole.🕳️

I'm going to take the high road now and follow Napoleon's advice: Never interrupt your adversary when he is making a mistake (or when he's off topic).
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« Reply #17905 on: March 01, 2026, 01:54:17 pm »

Oh, the irony.
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« Reply #17906 on: March 01, 2026, 04:34:11 pm »

Oh, the irony.

Maybe it's misspelled, should be "Bored..."

Many quarters are cheering the removal of Iran's Supreme Leader and I get that. However, the US does not have a great track record in nation building in the area so time will tell which way the country goes.
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« Reply #17907 on: March 01, 2026, 05:11:36 pm »

Been a subscriber for years. This week's cover is hilarious:
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« Reply #17908 on: March 02, 2026, 02:01:54 pm »

Been a subscriber for years. This week's cover is hilarious:

I thought the USA wanted to be isolationist. So far, Trump has been anything but. I love the irony of the USA trying to remove a theocracy in Iran while working to create a Christian Taliban at home.

The messaging about the attack on Iran is odd, first it's nuclear weapons, then it's regime change, tomorrow who knows. According to the interweb, Americans are not in favour but I don't think that matters to Trump.

As for SCOTUS, they probably should not have given the President immunity. My understanding is that it only applied to matters of state though, surely it can't carry over into bribe-taking and favour-peddling, can it?

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« Reply #17909 on: March 02, 2026, 03:32:01 pm »

“Iran had to be attacked because the U.S. was “very nearly under threat” by its advanced weapons systems, according to the president.

Addressing the war for the first time during a Medal of Honor ceremony on Monday, Donald Trump claimed that Iran’s “pursuit of nuclear weapons” posed an immediate threat to the American public—even though he declared last year that his June attacks on Iran’s nuclear facilities had “completely and totally obliterated” the country’s nuclear program.”

Opps. So much for the peace price and isolationist agenda. Many in the MAGA base is furious (good).

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Despite the bluster from Trump, who once promised that he would stop wars, the president’s grip on his base is being called into question after he started one on Saturday.
Curt Mills, an anti-interventionist and the executive director of The American Conservative, told us that this is “an elite-driven war, driven, frankly, by the ‘deep state.’” Former Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, an “America First” devotee who recently broke with Trump, called it “always America last.” The Trump ally and Blackwater founder Erik Prince said that he doesn’t “see how this is in keeping with the president’s MAGA commitment.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2026/03/iran-us-war-maga/686206/
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« Reply #17910 on: March 02, 2026, 03:49:04 pm »

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« Reply #17912 on: March 02, 2026, 10:50:11 pm »

“This is insane. Regime change will result in a bloody civil war, killing hundreds of thousands and creating another massive Muslim refugee crisis. Topping a leader is NEVER as easy you think. It almost always results in further involvement, a civil war, and chaos. Resist this!”

That was Charlie Kirk, speaking last summer and just a few months before his killing, in response to Lindsey Graham’s call for regime change in Iran.

Excerpt From
He Could Be Impeached.” Donald Trump’s Base Revolts Over War With Iran
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« Reply #17913 on: March 03, 2026, 06:56:10 am »

“This is insane. Regime change will result in a bloody civil war, killing hundreds of thousands and creating another massive Muslim refugee crisis. Topping a leader is NEVER as easy you think. It almost always results in further involvement, a civil war, and chaos. Resist this!”

That was Charlie Kirk, speaking last summer and just a few months before his killing, in response to Lindsey Graham’s call for regime change in Iran.

Excerpt From
He Could Be Impeached.” Donald Trump’s Base Revolts Over War With Iran
Aidan McLaughlin
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https://apple.news/AlRqcqv3DQziFWphPpUjBJw


I don't follow his career at all but Lindsey Graham seems to say a lot of things, not all of them obviously coherent.

There are calls for evacuations of US citizens and others in the middle east. The first report I saw last evening advised people to book commercial flights out ASAP, but weren't commercial flights grounded in many places? My first uncharitable thought was to wonder about airline real-time pricing algorithms and would they take advantage of the panic. It doesn't appear that US planners gave much thought to extracting their own citizens from the area, post attack. That would obviously be very difficult to do well, but isn't that all the more reason to try harder.
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« Reply #17914 on: March 05, 2026, 02:01:50 pm »

Good ones!
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« Reply #17915 on: March 05, 2026, 07:29:07 pm »

When your robot has an inadequate CPU along with insufficient programming, you get Kristi Noem. She'll likely end her government service as the Special Envoy to Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan.
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« Reply #17916 on: March 05, 2026, 08:34:12 pm »

...I get all my information about climate, weather predictions, cost of energy resources, harmful and positive effects, and so on, from studies available on the internet, or from reading books relatated [sic] to the issue,

You appear to get all your information about climate, weather predictions, cost of energy resources, harmful and positive effects, and so on, from quacks on the internet, or from reading comic books unrelated to the issue, and of course conspiracy propagandists from the Dunning–Kruger School of Climate Science.

...and of course personal experience when that's relevant.

It isn't.

An example of personal experience, is the uncertainty of weather forecasts just a few days into the future...

...because weather forecasting, unlike climate science, is concerned with measuring chaotic influences on local atmospheric conditions occurring over very short periods of time.

Sometimes, they are completely wrong.

...much like yourself and many of the climate quacks you follow.
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« Reply #17917 on: March 06, 2026, 08:11:35 am »

When your robot has an inadequate CPU along with insufficient programming, you get Kristi Noem. She'll likely end her government service as the Special Envoy to Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan.

One thing I've wondered about Noem when she appeared dressed in camo, surrounded by ICEsters in camo, and sometimes even carrying a weapon, what I've wondered and was not able to confirm in my limited viewing is, what she in heels in those vids? I ask because I don't think she's very tall but she appears tall at the microphones. Of course there could be many explanations for that other than heels.

Anyway she's gone now. One down, several more to go.
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« Reply #17918 on: March 06, 2026, 04:33:35 pm »

More from the ex pardon attorney, this time about DOJ trying to remove rules for DOJ attorneys, https://www.youtube.com/shorts/434iXhWZg0M, so they can do whatever Trump wants.
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