Brexit Encore

[jeremyrh]

Funny example. Let's see. You decide to leave your golf club mid-year, but you already paid your membership for the whole year. The club has two options: to tell you to f-off or to give you back a prorated fee. The former deters anyone else from leaving (punitive), the latter is fairer and incentivises new members to join. It is the club choice. Friendly or hostile.

However, that analogy does not have any resemblance to the actual situation, so there are no useful conclusions to be derived from considering it.

[Robert Roaldi]

Trump, Boris Johnson discuss Brexit, trade issues in Monday phone call

It seems Trump has been reading my posts:
"Great discussion with Prime Minister @BorisJohnson today. We talked about Brexit and how we can move rapidly on a US-UK free trade deal. I look forward to meeting with Boris this weekend, at the @G7 in France! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 19, 2019"

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/458020-trump-boris-johnson-discuss-brexit-trade-issues-in-monday-phone-call

How come when it comes to human influence on climate change you say we have to wait 50 years to find out what's going. Yet you seem to be awfully certain that UK will be better off not trading as part of EU but instead entering trade agreements with other countries independently. Why don't you need to wait 50 years to see how that works out?

[Rob C]

How come when it comes to human influence on climate change you say we have to wait 50 years to find out what's going. Yet you seem to be awfully certain that UK will be better off not trading as part of EU but instead entering trade agreements with other countries independently. Why don't you need to wait 50 years to see how that works out?

Easy one: he's a dedicated follower of fashion the message from the little white house up on the hill. We have better hiils in Edinburgh.

:-)

[Alan Klein]

How come when it comes to human influence on climate change you say we have to wait 50 years to find out what's going. Yet you seem to be awfully certain that UK will be better off not trading as part of EU but instead entering trade agreements with other countries independently. Why don't you need to wait 50 years to see how that works out?

I don;t think I said Brexit was better or easier.  What I said or meant was it's time to move on.  The train is moving out of the station.  I'm offering up some suggestions that I believe would be helpful to both GB and the USA.   They would help trade between our two countries. They would help break down EU trade barriers erected against both our countries once you leave the EU.  If you have better solutions, fine, what are they? 

[jeremyrh]

I don;t think I said Brexit was better or easier.  What I said or meant was it's time to move on.  The train is moving out of the station.  I'm offering up some suggestions that I believe would be helpful to both GB and the USA.   They would help trade between our two countries. They would help break down EU trade barriers erected against both our countries once you leave the EU.  If you have better solutions, fine, what are they?

Obvious answer is "don't leave" since right now we have no trade barriers with our biggest customers and suppliers, and we don't have to eat contaminated food. Simples.

[Alan Klein]

Obvious answer is "don't leave" since right now we have no trade barriers with our biggest customers and suppliers, and we don't have to eat contaminated food. Simples.

Jeremy, My understanding is the train already left the station.  There's no way to reverse it.  It's a done deal.  Time to move on. 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

However, that analogy does not have any resemblance to the actual situation, so there are no useful conclusions to be derived from considering it.

You brought the golf analogy into the discussion.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Obvious answer is "don't leave" ...

What stage of grief is that, again? Denial? You are still stuck in the first? Boy, you have a long way to go:  anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Shall we brace for the next? 😉

[Rhossydd]

My understanding is the train already left the station.  There's no way to reverse it.  It's a done deal.

Your understanding is wrong, again. Yet again you demonstrate you don't know what you're talking about. If anyone needs to move on here, it's not us, before commenting you really ought to have a better knowledge of what you're talking about.

[jeremyrh]

Jeremy, My understanding is the train already left the station.  There's no way to reverse it.  It's a done deal.  Time to move on.

That's not actually correct, though at this stage it looks likely.

[jeremyrh]

What stage of grief is that, again? Denial? You are still stuck in the first? Boy, you have a long way to go:  anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Shall we brace for the next? 😉

Alan asked if I have a better solution, and I provided one. Simple enough?

[Alan Klein]

Alan asked if I have a better solution, and I provided one. Simple enough?

Whatever.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Your understanding is wrong, again. Yet again you demonstrate you don't know what you're talking about. If anyone needs to move on here, it's not us, before commenting you really ought to have a better knowledge of what you're talking about.

Ah, progress! At least you moved from “denial” to “anger” phase. 

[jeremyrh]

Maybe Trump can buy Ireland instead of Greenland (would he even know the difference) and then Ireland can leave the EU, and voila! no hard border !!

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Maybe Trump can buy Ireland instead of Greenland (would he even know the difference) and then Ireland can leave the EU, and voila! no hard border !!

Brilliant! And why not? There are already 5x as many Irish in the USA as in Ireland.

[Rob C]

+1

He can then also get companies like Apple and Adobe to pay tax in the USA ...

Brilliant, again!

And with that extra cash his Mexican wall can be constructed from titanium, a beacon to American cultural excellence! Think of all the  global warming effects getting hands on all that stuff will then allow him to deny!

:-)

[Alan Klein]

+1

He can then also get companies like Apple and Adobe to pay tax in the USA ...

Trump's new tax bill encourages American companies to repatriate their cash earned overseas back to the USA.  Apple promised to send money back and will pay $38 billion in additional US taxes to bring back $250 billion.  This is great for American taxpayers (and voters) and will provide additional capital for investment and jobs in America.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/17/16901936/apple-tax-bill-foreign-money-united-states

[Rob C]

Trump's new tax bill encourages American companies to repatriate their cash earned overseas back to the USA.  Apple promised to send money back and will pay $38 billion in additional US taxes to bring back $250 billion.  This is great for American taxpayers (and voters) and will provide additional capital for investment and jobs in America.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/17/16901936/apple-tax-bill-foreign-money-united-states

Alan, Alan, continuity of thought is essential: if he brings those ginormous units back to the homeland to pay taxes they deem acceptable, why on Earth will he see advantages in buying Éire? He already has all the golf outlets he needs in that neck of the woods. Remove the tax benefits of the place to big business and it will revert to farming. Period. And farming is what's going to be crucified if the borders return.

On the other hand, if his view is really long-term, he may be plotting to buy the entire archipelago.

Hmmm... does that mean I could order genuine cowboy boots without paying import duty?

[Alan Klein]

Alan, Alan, continuity of thought is essential: if he brings those ginormous units back to the homeland to pay taxes they deem acceptable, why on Earth will he see advantages in buying Éire? He already has all the golf outlets he needs in that neck of the woods. Remove the tax benefits of the place to big business and it will revert to farming. Period. And farming is what's going to be crucified if the borders return.

On the other hand, if his view is really long-term, he may be plotting to buy the entire archipelago.

Hmmm... does that mean I could order genuine cowboy boots without paying import duty?

...and saddles too.

[Rob C]

...and saddles too.

Those would be a step too far. The only horse I know, sort of, has probably never worm one of those devices, but I can see them doing good business in Soho, London. Saddles, not horses, but you never know...