Topic: Lightroom CC Now Released (Read 18908 times)

Rhossydd · « **Reply #20 on:** April 21, 2015, 01:37:25 pm »

Quote from: digitaldog on April 21, 2015, 01:08:28 pm

No new enhancements (features) makes total sense. We've seen that from day one as I wrote.

I don't think that's correct. I can remember one version having a significant new feature added in a dot release. Must have been back in 3 or 4 because I can't remember the full details now.

digitaldog · « **Reply #21 on:** April 21, 2015, 01:42:25 pm »

Quote from: Rhossydd on April 21, 2015, 01:37:25 pm

I don't think that's correct. I can remember one version having a significant new feature added in a dot release. Must have been back in 3 or 4 because I can't remember the full details now.

You're probably correct, and yes, I recall the same plus nothing stops Adobe from adding new features to a dot release. But providing NO bug fixes, new camera support, new lens profile support as 'suggested' by Kelby doesn't make any sense.

Wayne Fox · « **Reply #22 on:** April 21, 2015, 01:46:08 pm »

I tend to agree, Kelby’s statement pretty much reiterates the policy that has been in place and actually frustrated CC users for the past year or more. Despite 5.x releases to add camera support and fix bugs, new features in ACR were not provided to users of LR on the cloud for “legal” reasons. So things like editing of graduated filters which have been in ACR for some time now were not available in LR until now.

I see the LR CC release as a way to avoid that going forward. Now whether Adobe will eventually releases a stand alone LR 7 as features are added to LR CC remains to be seen, but the statement made by Kelby could easily have been made a year or two ago ... nothing new.

Wayne Fox · « **Reply #23 on:** April 21, 2015, 01:47:30 pm »

Quote from: digitaldog on April 21, 2015, 01:29:28 pm

This begs a question. My LR5 is perpetual but I also have the full CC subscription. So I think I'll wait till tonight to see if indeed, CC will provide an upgrade.

I also have both, and LR CC was available when I powered up my Mac, now installed and ready to launch.

Bob Rockefeller · « **Reply #24 on:** April 21, 2015, 01:47:49 pm »

Quote from: digitaldog on April 21, 2015, 01:42:25 pm

You're probably correct, and yes, I recall the same plus nothing stops Adobe from adding new features to a dot release. But providing NO bug fixes, new camera support, new lens profile support as 'suggested' by Kelby doesn't make any sense.

There was no suggestion of no bug fixes. It said no new features or enhancements. What's a feature? What's an enhancement?

digitaldog · « **Reply #25 on:** April 21, 2015, 01:50:19 pm »

Quote from: Wayne Fox on April 21, 2015, 01:46:08 pm

Now whether Adobe will eventually releases a stand alone LR 7 as features are added to LR CC remains to be seen, but the statement made by Kelby could easily have been made a year or two ago ... nothing new.

Worse, it is bad marketing speak towards Adobe as witnessed here where folks wonder if the poop will hit the fan. The audience here on LuLa is by and large, pretty savvy. Imagine the Kelby audience believing what he 'suggests' or those on 'that other forum'. In the rush to be first out the door, the signal/benefit to noise/BS ratio is skewed once again.

digitaldog · « **Reply #26 on:** April 21, 2015, 01:51:28 pm »

Quote from: Bob Rockefeller on April 21, 2015, 01:47:49 pm

There was no suggestion of no bug fixes. It said no new features or enhancements. What's a feature? What's an enhancement?

Your confusion is justified by the piss-poor text you posted from Kelby. Ask him. But don't take it to the bank just yet.

ButchM · « **Reply #27 on:** April 21, 2015, 01:52:43 pm »

Quote from: Bob Rockefeller on April 21, 2015, 01:47:49 pm

What's a feature? What's an enhancement?

historically ... adobe has not referred new camera support or lens profiles as new features or new enhancements ...

davidgp · « **Reply #28 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:03:48 pm »

Just for your information, Adobe has also released Camera Raw 9 with Panorama and HDR: https://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2015/04/camera-raw-9-now-available.html

Rick Popham · « **Reply #29 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:08:47 pm »

Quote from: digitaldog on April 21, 2015, 01:29:28 pm

This begs a question. My LR5 is perpetual but I also have the full CC subscription. So I think I'll wait till tonight to see if indeed, CC will provide an upgrade.

Yes, my LR5 is also a perpetual version. I'll continue to ugrade the perpetual license to use on my laptop while traveling.

digitaldog · « **Reply #30 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:10:55 pm »

Quote from: Rick Popham on April 21, 2015, 02:08:47 pm

Yes, my LR5 is also a perpetual version. I'll continue to ugrade the perpetual license to use on my laptop while traveling.

Sounds like a plan but there might be a rub. I did download and install LR6, it updated my catalog. The older catalog is there as well. I (we) need to test if a LR6 catalog is backwards compatible. Otherwise we need two catalogs which makes this somewhat problematic.

pigpen · « **Reply #31 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:11:39 pm »

Warning - I had a licenced version of Lightroom 5, I went to download the new Lightroom 6 and it instead put Lightroom (5) CC on my machine so I deleted it and then found they had removed my licenced version 5 from my machine. I'm so pissed off.

digitaldog · « **Reply #32 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:16:23 pm »

Quote from: pigpen on April 21, 2015, 02:11:39 pm

Warning - I had a licenced version of Lightroom 5, I went to download the new Lightroom 6 and it instead put Lightroom (5) CC on my machine so I deleted it and then found they had removed my licenced version 5 from my machine. I'm so pissed off.

I've got both on my machine after the update. LR6 is now within a folder, with an uninstaller as well. The older LR5 app was named "Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5" while the folder is named "Adobe Lightroom". I'm not sure if you had identical names and as such, the older version was over written by new?

Manoli · « **Reply #33 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:16:48 pm »

I suggest reading Ian Lyons rundown on the new Lr.
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/lr6_review/lr6-review-1.htm

davidgp · « **Reply #34 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:17:40 pm »

Quote from: digitaldog on April 21, 2015, 02:10:55 pm

Sounds like a plan but there might be a rub. I did download and install LR6, it updated my catalog. The older catalog is there as well. I (we) need to test if a LR6 catalog is backwards compatible. Otherwise we need two catalogs which makes this somewhat problematic.

From where did you download it, everytime I go to download from the adobe webpage (spanish version after login), it just downloads the Adobe Creative Cloud installer...

digitaldog · « **Reply #35 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:19:51 pm »

Quote from: davidgp on April 21, 2015, 02:17:40 pm

From where did you download it, everytime I go to download from the adobe webpage (spanish version after login), it just downloads the Adobe Creative Cloud installer...

I downloaded via my CC subscription but I was only able to do so after a restart.

davidgp · « **Reply #36 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:22:55 pm »

Quote from: digitaldog on April 21, 2015, 02:19:51 pm

I downloaded via my CC subscription but I was only able to do so after a restart.

Ok, I need first for Final Cut X to finish uploading a video to youtube... then I can restart. Thanks!!!

rdonson · « **Reply #37 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:23:33 pm »

The Kelby video went about like Andrew predicted. Here's my summary:

The new features look quite good but not exactly earth shattering although the performance improvements with use of the GPU could be.

The video went like this after starting about 15 min late due to tech difficulties:
Blather, Blather, Blather, Ad, Blather, Blather, Blather, Shameless Plug, Blather, Blather, Blather,Show new feature, Blather, Blather, Blather, Bad Joke, Blather, Blather, Blather,

Repeat until you're out of time.

Rick Popham · « **Reply #38 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:25:28 pm »

Quote from: digitaldog on April 21, 2015, 02:10:55 pm

Sounds like a plan but there might be a rub. I did download and install LR6, it updated my catalog. The older catalog is there as well. I (we) need to test if a LR6 catalog is backwards compatible. Otherwise we need two catalogs which makes this somewhat problematic.

Do you mean compatibility between LR6 and LR "CC"? I guess it really doesn't matter to me, because I'll probably just run LR6 and not bother with the CC version.
But it's a good question.

digitaldog · « **Reply #39 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:28:46 pm »

Quote from: rdonson on April 21, 2015, 02:23:33 pm

The new features look quite good but not exactly earth shattering although the performance improvements with use of the GPU could be.

He promised something BIG. I guess we can expect some honesty once he's pulled in his audience.
Playing with Face Detection, kind of cool. I'm hoping that as I decide what faces NOT to include, LR will keep them from coming up for inclusion to reject. It missed a number of shots that are obviously not faces. An image with a stop sign in it was funny to see included. Scrolling in Grid does seem a bit zippier.
No dogs are detected and that's a major disappointment but I'm only partially though the catalog.

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