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Re: set adobe print utility inches margins
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2015, 06:46:55 am »

So Adobe provided a free tool - it's supported at an appropriate level for it being free and given the market size who "require" it.

Good to know there is no market for color management because of stupid people that buy any prints shop makes them, but how is that related to software features that could be made simply on/ off via preferences etc. There is no need to remove something just make it possible to switch off.

Then again I image most complaints were from U.S customers that need a "specialist" to hang a print on the wall, because they don't know how.
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Re: set adobe print utility inches margins
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2015, 06:51:56 am »

Perfect, use a 10 year old copy of Photoshop to print the untagged targets.  8)

Now you are suggesting the same as I did, only no need to use 10 year old version. Use "PhotoShop CS4 Micro" (google it) version, only ~50MB (not portable installs and expands to ~300mb). BTW thank Russians for it.
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Re: set adobe print utility inches margins
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2015, 06:55:55 am »

What happens if you attempt to print a target that is just smaller than letter size, does it still cause the scaling bug?

The ACPU has margins in "inches" and my OS is in "millimeters" the darn thing doesn't even read that correct. How it suppose to work? Now I have no problem to providing measurements in inches but it accepts only default value of 1.
1 inch is about 2.54 cm that is allot if I have make my targets by 5 cm smaller in height and width to print. I use every millimeter to put as much patches as I can, and I expect this to be logical way to use paper, ink, and my time.
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Re: set adobe print utility inches margins
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2015, 10:33:27 am »

The ACPU has margins in "inches" and my OS is in "millimeters" the darn thing doesn't even read that correct. How it suppose to work?
Are you serious? You can't figure out how to convert inches into millimeters? ACPU didn't build the target, the application that did can't help you convert units of measurement but it's ACPU's fault? You own Photoshop, try the Image Size command if you can get past using an Adobe product to aid you with the math. I thought you were serious about needing to print an untagged target. In ACPU or otherwise. Now I suspect this entire genesis of this tread is Anti-Adobe.

Let's try again, assuming you really want to print the target in ACPU on Windows. Whatever app built the page, make a target that's smaller than 8.5x11. I recommend 8x10 which can be on an 8.5x11 inch page. FWIW, according to Photoshop's New Document dialog window>U.S. Page when set to MM equals 215.9mm x 279.4mm. Do you need me to supply a screen capture of this dialog?
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Re: set adobe print utility inches margins
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2015, 10:37:44 am »

Now you are suggesting the same as I did, only no need to use 10 year old version.
If you have to print CMYK to the unsupported, 10 year old products GWGIll suggests is an excuse for the workflow I asked for to make the case for untagged printing, sure.
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Re: set adobe print utility inches margins
« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2015, 11:18:15 am »

I have a revelation to you that ACPU does print exactly as Photoshop no color management for RGB images ONLY. However for CMYK images it does not print the same so if you want precision you need to use "Photoshop CS4 Micro" edition or any other old version you own that does have the "No color management" print option.

Here how it looks like:

ACPU CMYK
87
21
100
7

CS3 no color management
100
10
100
0

Original file
100
10
100
0

If somebody wants to print RGB only give opensource/freeware a try use PhotoFiltre 7.2.0.
No install needed just ~5MB app will print RGB files exactly as Photoshop without color management, "No color management"
http://static.infomaniak.ch/photofiltre/utils/pf7/pf7-en-7.2.0.zip
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Re: set adobe print utility inches margins
« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2015, 12:02:49 pm »

I have a revelation to you that ACPU does print exactly as Photoshop no color management for RGB images ONLY
I am aware of that and stated the issue with CMYK output of untagged data to printers below. What does this have to do with the target scaling bug of which some are trying to assist you with? Are you printing CMYK untagged targets?
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Re: set adobe print utility inches margins
« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2015, 12:27:29 pm »

I am aware of that and stated the issue with CMYK output of untagged data to printers below. What does this have to do with the target scaling bug of which some are trying to assist you with? Are you printing CMYK untagged targets?


My client wants to use adobe recommended workflow, that means using ACPU. The targets are RGB.
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Re: set adobe print utility inches margins
« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2015, 12:38:44 pm »

My client wants to use adobe recommended workflow, that means using ACPU. The targets are RGB.
Well WTF are you bringing up CMYK?
Next, why are you not attempting to over-ride what I believe is the scaling bug in ACPU and not printing a target smaller than 8.5x11? 215.9mm x 279.4mm.  Further, I told you how to print in the current version of PS and get the same output as using ACPU. You want help and a possible fix to the issues you yourself raised here or not?
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