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Manoli

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Je suis Charlie
« on: January 09, 2015, 12:41:48 pm »

With the news that the suspected perpetrators of the Charlie Hebdo massacre and the other murders are now deceased, time to extend sympathies to all French and francophile members and condolences to the victims' families.



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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2015, 12:42:11 pm »


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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2015, 04:50:22 pm »

Europe, particularly France and Germany, absolutely needs urgent distraction like this from the horrendous economic blowbacks from Washington-enforced economic war against Russia.
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Slobodan Blagojevic

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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2015, 05:30:15 pm »

... time to extend sympathies to all French and francophile members and condolences to the victims' families.

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Attack on French liberties is an attack on our liberties as well. We will defeat the ideology behind the attack and its medieval mindset.

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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2015, 05:46:34 pm »

+ 1
Thanks, Slobodan
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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2015, 05:57:38 pm »

We will defeat the ideology behind the attack and its medieval mindset.

How?  The Western leaders and media are still in denial.

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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2015, 06:38:29 pm »

+1

Attack on French liberties is an attack on our liberties as well. We will defeat the ideology behind the attack and its medieval mindset.

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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2015, 07:37:06 pm »

How?  The Western leaders and media are still in denial.

Right, Rajan. Nobody in the West is willing to face the facts and deal with reality.
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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2015, 07:45:05 pm »

+1. I keep wishing to hear more clerics raise their voices against these acts, but I guess I have to wait longer.
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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2015, 07:53:07 pm »

How can any one nation or 'the west' be at fault for the actions of those 2 thin skinned losers with guns ??
If they had walked into those offices and had a sit-down protest maybe.. ;)

My sympathies to the victims and their families who were guilty of nothing.


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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2015, 08:03:07 pm »

In the meantime, cartoonists in America remain fearless freedom fighters, under the watchful eye of our own PC Taliban:

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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2015, 08:54:04 pm »

+1 to Manoli, Slobo, David, RSL...everyone, actually.

The word is that one of the 2 brothers had an apartment full of child porn. Like the 9/11 perpetrators with their Vegas whores on 9/10. It's a death cult, hiding behind all manner of obfuscation, hypocrisy, false piety, misogyny, fraud, etc.

Here's a link to the some of the 'offending' Charlie Hebdo cartoons:
http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.com/2012/09/charlie-hebdo-to-publish-new-mohammed.html
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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2015, 09:52:42 pm »

“If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking.”

 - Ben Franklin
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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2015, 05:04:11 am »

+1

Attack on French liberties is an attack on our liberties as well. We will defeat the ideology behind the attack and its medieval mindset.

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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2015, 05:34:29 am »

“If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking.”

 - Ben Franklin

Ben was right, but it's not the thinking that's the problem, it's the not thinking of fundamentalists that is the problem. Thinking stops where dogmas start. And it's not limited to religion ...

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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2015, 06:58:46 am »

What happened was obviously 100% wrong. However there is a difference between the right to free speech and the right to offend? Fanatics don't like being targeted and not being rational means they will react to being lampooned. Unfortunately the French cartoonists have possibly went from free speech to offending. Difficult to differentiate. As stated by myself....the actions of the terrorists were 100% wrong.  :'(

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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2015, 07:33:11 am »

Ben was right, but it's not the thinking that's the problem, it's the not thinking of fundamentalists that is the problem. Thinking stops where dogmas start. And it's not limited to religion ...

Cheers,
Bart


So, so true, Bart.

The problem, as currenly evident in Germany and mid-West USA, is that the middle ground disappears and we drive the debate to the extremes.

The problem is not one particular religion. It may be all religions. But, more particularly, it is fundamentalism - irrespective of which religion or political belief that fundamentalism is attached to.

Fundamentalist Christianity is every bit as evil and dangerous as fundamentalist Islam. Extreme-right politics are as dangerous as extreme-left.
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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2015, 07:38:03 am »

Today the imam of the mosk nearby the Charlie Hebdo office stated:
'God says whoever insults me does that out of ignorance...    if somebody feels insulted they can go to court"

Personally i would like to see that imams all over the world come together to unitedly condemn all terrorist actions that are carried out in the name of the Islam.

« Last Edit: January 10, 2015, 07:42:58 am by kers »
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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2015, 07:38:31 am »

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Attack on French liberties is an attack on our liberties as well. We will defeat the ideology behind the attack and its medieval mindset.
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Re: Je suis Charlie
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2015, 08:34:04 am »


Fundamentalist Christianity is every bit as evil and dangerous as fundamentalist Islam.

You may not like fundamentalist Christians, but right now at least, that's a philosophical, and potentially dangerous element in western society, vs. the kinetic, 'currently killing thousands' danger posed by Islamism. Re-post when the American abortion clinics start blowing up again, or when the Methodists start bombing nightclubs and killing Muslim children in the name of Jesus or John the Baptist, his Prophet....peace be upon him.
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