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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2014, 02:39:18 pm »

In PKS use halftone.
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« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2014, 03:21:42 pm »

Thanks Andrew. What effect? (Specifically for Apple.) There are twenty effects from which to choose under halftone.
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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2014, 03:40:15 pm »

Should be only one for output. Not near a computer but just look for output not creative sharpening.
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« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2014, 03:46:59 pm »

Nope. There are 20 effects for halftone output. I just double-checked. From 85lpi Coated 127.5 ppi to 175lpi Uncoated 350 ppi. (Every option is listed in Coated and Uncoated.)
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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2014, 04:38:40 pm »

Nope. There are 20 effects for halftone output. I just double-checked. From 85lpi Coated 127.5 ppi to 175lpi Uncoated 350 ppi. (Every option is listed in Coated and Uncoated.)
My bad, yes LPI. If memory serves me, for Apples Indigos get as close to 160 LPI.
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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2014, 02:32:24 am »

didn’t know apple books switched from NexPress to Indigo’s.  The Indigo’s originally couldn’t deliver the quality Apple liked but I heard they also didn’t like some of the aspects of the toner based printing Blurb certainly doesn’t seem to get much out of their indigo’s.  The tight integration between Apple, their software, and their providers certainly seems to work, I haven’t seen many poor quality Apple books. 

I know a few who have published books who have used Apple to do short run prototypes, which looked pretty good.
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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2014, 09:13:42 am »

didn’t know apple books switched from NexPress to Indigo’s.
They didn’t. Various on demand press technologies are used depending on the part of the book (cover, interior) is under discussion and this is true for all book publishers. That’s why my Blurb book covers and interior shots of the same image don’t match as well as I’d like. That’s real, real hard to do.
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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2014, 03:29:56 am »

Unfortunately, Aperture and iPhoto are the only two entry points to the Apple book printing service. It appears that iPhoto doesn't have the design flexibility I need, and the only version of Aperture Apple will currently sell only runs on Yosemite, and will not run on Mavericks, which is my current OS. So I'm back to square one. Does anyone besides Apple have better quality than Blurb? Lulu? PhotoBook Press? Or... is there anyone with enough pull at Apple to get them to sell me the last version of Aperture that will run on Mavericks? Gotta ask. Ya never know. I would gladly send one of my Duane Allman prints to anyone that can get me an older version of Aperture.
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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2014, 07:33:32 am »

Do you have a second drive on which you could install Yosemite and use it for this purpose? For example, I have one legacy product that needs Snow Leopard, but other applications that need at least Mavericks, so I keep both operating systems, but on separate drives. The MacPro/OSX architecture makes it very easy to work between the two systems as you need them. All document files/pictures etc. are reachable wherever they are stored from whichever the two OS you operate.
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« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2014, 10:25:20 am »

Or if you don't have a spare hard drive, you could split your OS hard drive into 2 (or more) partitions. I've now got Snow Leopard, Mavericks and Yosemite partitions on a single drive.
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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2014, 01:37:36 pm »

Other than options for book layout, the only other difference is that iPhoto sends out a color space that’s very similar to sRGB, Aperture sends Adobe RGB (1998) to the print provider. The presses, process, QC and I suspect turn around time are the same. I’d have to examine iPhoto’s book layout options compared to Aperture which I’ve never done. But otherwise, the process aside from the RGB working space is the same.



Andrew, is the color gamut of the printing process significantly wider than sRGB? If not, what is the benefit of being able to send the files in Adobe RGB (1998) for printing? Or is it simply some sort of convenience feature?
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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2014, 02:34:52 pm »

Digitaldog, Slobodan Blagojevic, please just SHUT UP!
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« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2014, 03:23:25 pm »

Digitaldog, Slobodan Blagojevic, please just SHUT UP!

I think Andrew has been making very useful contributions to the this thread, and it is important to think twice before telling other members to "shut-up", including to ask yourself whether it is your prerogative to do so in the first place. Yes, a few barbs were traded, but let's be tolerant - happens from time to time; I wish it didn't, but that's life and let's not obssess.
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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2014, 03:39:16 pm »

I think Andrew has been making very useful contributions to the this thread, and it is important to think twice before telling other members to "shut-up", including to ask yourself whether it is your prerogative to do so in the first place. Yes, a few barbs were traded, but let's be tolerant - happens from time to time; I wish it didn't, but that's life and let's not obssess.
Both make very useful comments to this and many other threads; we all know that, but they both also get into what can only be described as childish ego contests which add nothing and detract much, and I think it is perfectly fair to tell them to stop  it.
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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2014, 03:54:19 pm »

Both make very useful comments to this and many other threads; we all know that, but they both also get into what can only be described as childish ego contests which add nothing and detract much, and I think it is perfectly fair to tell them to stop  it.

OK, for the record, this debate between them ended November 28th 8:30 PM LULA time. It was gone, buried. You come in on December 5th and create an issue, in unflattering language. I'm not going to prolong this. I agree with you such incidents are distracting, but truly, there is such a thing as the appropriate time and manners for handling it, if the situation really cries out. I'll leave it at that, and no hard feelings meant - just a suggestion about tolerance and civility a number of us need to remind ourselves of periodically.  :-)
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Re: Self publishing quality - Lulu, Blurb, or who?
« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2014, 05:01:25 pm »

Andrew, is the color gamut of the printing process significantly wider than sRGB?
Not significantly but sRGB is smaller in cyan’s and blues a bit and depending on paper, yellows. Adobe RGB fully contains the entire output gamut so that’s moot.
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