My friend who had her breasts reduced did so as they literally caused her pain with her back and shoulder where the bra straps dug in. They didn't feminise her, instead they made her a bit freakish as they were way too big for the rest of her. Anyone thinking she should not have done that is the one lacking sanity or compassion.
You're missing the point of what I am saying.
I never said that the
necessary removal of
excess breast tissue, for health reasons (cancer, pain, etc.), defeminizes women ... I am saying that the random, "artsy," graphical/surgical effort to create an
androgynous "look" defeminizes women.
Please have the sense to understand the difference.
I also know people who dislike big boobs and prefer slender women. They still managed to have plenty of kids in spite of not their women not being suitable for the job according to you. And God knows how orientals manage as they tend to be quite slight and very lacking in curves compared to Westerners. Then there's the African tribes who are very tall and slender and completely in contrast to others tribes who are all curves and yet somehow all these varied people manage to reproduce. BTW women with hardly any boobs are still able to breastfeed normally as they get bigger and full of milk when needed.
Yawn. All of this is common knowledge, and has nothing to do with my point.
And, FYI, people are not "oriental," they're Asian.
You buy oriental rugs; you see and meet Asian
people. (Just a free tip.)
Personally I prefer an hourglass shape, but I certainly do not agree that women who according to your blunt definition are not women, because they are perfectly capable of being a mother. There's a reason why women's bodies undergo changes during pregnancy and it's to facilitate ease of birth and nursing.
Thank you for your distortion of everything I said, as well as your penchant for stating the obvious. I didn't make a blunt definition of a woman; I stated a general and accurate one.
Arguing extremes is pointless.
However, an extreme to the feminine side (large hips/breasts) is at least
feminine exaggeration. Attempting to "masculinize" a woman, however, by shrinking their hips look like a man's, and by de-emphasizing their breasts, is (by default) defeminizing them. Again, please have the sense to understand the difference.
I am fully aware that a woman can be slender,
athletic, and still have hips and still be recognizable as a woman. Tennis players and many other female athletes are still "all woman" in their shapeliness ...
I am talking about that gaunt, sickly, "androgynous look" that is becoming popular, which to me quite frankly is neither healthy nor sane. It is actually a
biological fact that women who are too lean often have trouble with their periods, and often become infertile, until such time as they add a little weight back to their frames. That is basically "life itself" defeminizing them ... until such time as they add some healthy weight and want to become women again.
At least we agree on one thing: preferring an hourglass shape. That is, was, and will always be "the feminine shape," one with curved hips, not straight ones.
Jack
