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thierrylegros396

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Very different atmospheric conditions !
« on: September 26, 2013, 01:46:40 PM »

My 3 latest.

Hope you will enjoy !

Thierry
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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2013, 11:23:01 PM »

#3 has me reaching for my rubber boots.

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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2013, 09:47:45 AM »

Same as above but I'd like to see that sun toned down just a hair.
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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 10:33:02 AM »

Third photo for me too. It eclipses the two others.
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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2013, 02:58:43 AM »

Same as above but I'd like to see that sun toned down just a hair.

Yes, you're right Chris.

I wanted to "tame" it slightly but i's difficult to choose the right amount  ;)


François, the second was really a big challenge for me, because of the very high dynamic of the scene.

Don't forget that it was taken with a simple SX50HS, so not the best device for HDR  ;) ;)

I've bought this one just to try it, but now I find it so much versatile that it's now my companion when biking.

It allows me things that were impossible before, as handheld macro @2 meter distance !


Have a Nice day.

Thierry
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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2013, 04:33:42 AM »

#3 is indeed very nice and moody.

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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2013, 04:21:28 AM »

Number 3 is the one that appeals to me most.

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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2013, 04:43:26 AM »

The trio are very likeable especially number 2. I like the flow of the water. Do you men the Canon SX50HS that Michael recommended a while back? I bought one and I fully agree with your summing up of it, especially the macro. To be honest my Tamron f/2.8 90 mmmacro now gathers dust because macro is so much easier with that camera or a Canon G12.

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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2013, 05:24:53 AM »

The trio are very likeable especially number 2. I like the flow of the water. Do you men the Canon SX50HS that Michael recommended a while back? I bought one and I fully agree with your summing up of it, especially the macro. To be honest my Tamron f/2.8 90 mmmacro now gathers dust because macro is so much easier with that camera or a Canon G12.

Yes SX50HS is so much versatile and I appreciate it very much in good light conditions.

Thierry
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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2013, 09:10:59 AM »

#1 is a common snapshot IMO.

#2 and #3 are evocative, make you stop and thing, and draw out different moods.

Jack

PS: Macro may be "easier" with a SX50HS or G12 but you'll never really get a truly nice macro shot with one either. No bokeh, way too much background clutter. I have a very nice G15 that fills a lot of niches, but I sure don't use it for my best macro work.
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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2013, 11:31:37 AM »

#1 is a common snapshot IMO.

#2 and #3 are evocative, make you stop and thing, and draw out different moods.

Jack

PS: Macro may be "easier" with a SX50HS or G12 but you'll never really get a truly nice macro shot with one either. No bokeh, way too much background clutter. I have a very nice G15 that fills a lot of niches, but I sure don't use it for my best macro work.

No bokeh ?!

See below what is possible with SX50HS but NOT with G15 !
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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2013, 11:52:22 AM »

With the utmost respect, what you posted honestly has a cluttered background in my book.

This is an image with bokeh and (no) you'll never get this with a point-n-shoot:
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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2013, 02:00:27 PM »

With the utmost respect, what is the Bokeh definition ?!

Bokeh describes the appearance, or "feel," of out-of-focus areas. Bokeh is not how far something is out-of-focus, bokeh is the character of whatever blur is there.

In photography, bokeh (Originally /ˈboʊkɛ/,[1] /ˈboʊkeɪ/ BOH-kay — also sometimes heard as /ˈboʊkə/ BOH-kə,[2] Japanese: [boke]) is the blur, or the aesthetic quality of the blur, in out-of-focus areas of an image.

So for me "Bokeh" of the SX50HS is enough to enhance "in Focus selected object".

For sure a full frame with f/1.8 lens allows you to have more blur.

But I'm satisfied with SX50HS when lighting conditions are good.

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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2013, 02:45:29 PM »

I understand what you're saying. However, that is still a cluttered background.

One of the problems with all P&S sensors (for macro) is the greater depth-of-field.
That can be a good thing, if you're wanting lots of your subject in-focus, but (for artistic shots) having all that garbage in the background is distracting IMO, even if it's "rendered smoothly" ... clutter and garbage "rendered smoothly" is still clutter and garbage.

You have 2 things working against you with a P&S: 1) you have to get it closer to the subject, which automatically means you're going to have more background to contend with; and 2) the sensor on those beauties just records more depth-of-field by default. With these two elements combined, you're just never going to get an artistic shot with a P&S like you would if you used a DSLR. For this reason, unless I want a "record shot" (where I don't care about bokeh), I don't even bother using my G15 for macro.

I remember back when I was shooting the Canon G9 P&S. I took a killer shot of a Painted Lady butterfly ... the color/focus/lighting were excellent ... but since you could see everything behind it back to a hundred feet (lol) it just ruined the overall effect of the image. If that same exact shot would have been taken with my 180mm on a tripod, it would have been a wall-hanger, but because it was taken with my P&S hand-held, and because I have since gone on to a full 180mm macro lens and know a good macro shot from a bad one now, that G9 image was eventually relegated to the Recycle Bin.

I do agree with you that running around with a P&S is more fun than lugging around heavy equipment, but when I have a really nice opportunity, it makes me sick if all I have onhand is my P&S ... because I know I personally will never be satisfied with the results. But to each his own.

Jack
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Re: Very different atmospheric conditions !
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2013, 10:56:40 AM »

You are absolutely right for the G series and almost all P&S, Jack.

But the SX50HS can be a very different case if used differently !
Why ?

Because you can take photos at 1200mm (eq full frame) @ only 1.3m of distance.
With the G15 you have to be at min 0.4m at 140mm (eq full frame).

At 1200mm, the DOF is really more shallow.

Of course there is no free lunch.
You have to be extremely stable at 1200mm (eq full frame) and/or use a tripod.
And the small sensors of all P&S impose good lighting conditions.

So yes, if you want very shallow DOF, you have to use a full frame.
Even with the 4/3 it's difficult to obtain what you expect ;)

Have  a Nice Day.

Thierry
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