Started by henrikfoto, May 12, 2013, 05:48:09 am
Quote from: Paulo Bizarro on May 14, 2013, 09:58:47 amI don´t know, maybe it is just me, but I have never taken a shot that I then would go and say: "Gosh, I wish I had 2 more stops of DR!". What I am saying is, for someone that grew up as a photographer with slide film, I find the current crop of Canon sensors more than enough for what I need (landscapes, seascapes, travel, people, nature macro). I sure can appreciate more DR, but I just wonder how many photographers really need it? BTW, I also don´t need or want more pixels, the ones on my 6D are plenty enough.Do we really need to open up shadows that much? Lots of photos I see today have (for me) shadows that are too light, that do not match the existing light. When I look at photos from photographers I admire, I see that they are not afraid of deep and moody shadows.
Quote from: MrSmith on May 14, 2013, 11:52:41 amI never shot neg film as the quality was poor compared to transparency and clients always insisted on E6 so have always controlled the light in the studio or judged exposure on a B&W Polaroid, digital is no more tolerant of slapdash working.Control the medium until it becomes second nature and go make images.More dynamic range seems to just encourage the 'fix it afterwards' mentality instead of crafting images, if 2more stops became available overnight it wouldn't change my way of working or mean better images. I can appreciate it might matter to people who work in a more haphazard arbitrary way though.
Quote from: TMARK on May 14, 2013, 11:06:22 amHere is were the D800's DR comes in to play: With previous Canons, shooting fashion/portraits under lights, I had to light for the raw file. I had to use lots of fill and at the same time really watch my highlights, scrimming and flagging until I ran out of C-Stands. At ISO 100, my lights were often too strong. It was a lot of grip work to get a file that looked too flat before post, like when teh client sees it pop up on a monitor. With the D800 (or MFDB) I can expose mor elike the final image, less scrimming and flagging, preserve the high lights and if needed bring up the shadows. I can also shoot under natural light without a shit ton of reflectors for fill and still recover an overcast sky. Its much more like shooting negative film.
Quote from: FredBGG on May 14, 2013, 12:27:50 pm+1I also find I get much better B+W conversions and more depth in dark hair...
Quote from: Ludwig Nobel on May 14, 2013, 02:25:44 pmWith the current Canon sensors, theres is a real problem of banding noise in shadows and midrange, even without lifting dark areas. The red channel is especially critical. I had numerous shots ruined by that. So it's not only for revealing detail in shadows, but also in pictures with dynamic range that should be handeld just fine by this sensors.Ludwig
Quote from: shadowblade on May 14, 2013, 04:05:43 pmSurely I can't be the only one who used to shoot multiple exposures with film (617-format Velvia in my case), scan them and combine them in Photoshop...
Quote from: marcmccalmont on May 12, 2013, 05:57:51 am"I hear your pain brother" I was ready for a 5DIII but went for the D800E due to it's better sensor. What to do about the lenses? For landscapes manual focus is fine so I invested in Leica R lenses modified them with Leitax Nikkor mounts. So now I can use them directly on my D800E or with an adapter on my 5DII. So I future proofed my lens investment, they can be used on a Nikon,Canon or Sony Marc
Quote from: TMARK on May 14, 2013, 01:48:49 pmI get what you are saying about the DR allowing for lazy production, but even without extended DR people don't use meters and adjust lights and f stops based on histograms, which is not crafting an image.
Quote from: Petrus on May 14, 2013, 10:17:03 amEvery time I take a shot with my D800e or D4 where the histogram hits both ends I say aloud: "Gosh, I wish I had 2 more stops of DR!"
Quote from: henrikfoto on May 12, 2013, 05:48:09 amWill it come soon, or is it time to sell and go to Nikon?
Quote from: Rhossydd on May 15, 2013, 02:07:18 amIf you need more pixels now, buy the 800 now.If Canon announced their big pixel camera tomorrow the chances are you wouldn't get your hands on one this side of Christmas.It's certainly on it's way. There have been many rumours, both fanciful and credible that one is under development and various prototypes are being tested.Nikon's very competitive pricing on the 800 has given Canon a nightmare decision where to price it and what model series to put it in.
Quote from: Paulo Bizarro on May 14, 2013, 09:58:47 amDo we really need to open up shadows that much? Lots of photos I see today have (for me) shadows that are too light, that do not match the existing light.
Quote from: LoisWakeman on May 15, 2013, 06:55:01 am Well said Paul! Away with dishrag grey HDR landscapes, I say.
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