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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #1960 on: January 13, 2016, 12:19:12 pm »

Eric & Bob - thank you:) I am searching, we'll see. I got stuck in grayscale with a sterile background for 15 years and now craving texture and color:)

Here is one more from the same shoot:


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« Reply #1961 on: January 13, 2016, 12:51:43 pm »

Something dark, something bright! 

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« Reply #1962 on: January 13, 2016, 01:00:18 pm »

Joe, when are you getting motion triggers for your strobes?  I can totally see you doing bottles dropping into pools of water.  I always wanted to explore that bit of geekery!

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« Reply #1963 on: January 13, 2016, 01:21:29 pm »

Damnit Joe! Now I need an Irish coffee! :P
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« Reply #1964 on: January 13, 2016, 01:32:51 pm »

Joe is totally inspiring.  I keep buying really nice bottles of Scotch.  The problem is... I keep emptying them.

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« Reply #1965 on: January 13, 2016, 03:23:47 pm »

Something dark, something bright!

You are having some fun Joe!   I like both, the dark just not as much.  Keep them coming!
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« Reply #1966 on: January 13, 2016, 03:40:15 pm »

Hi Ezra,

Lots of nice images, personally I like the kid on the chairs and this one more than the others. I guess I feel more comfortable with colours, but that is a very personal thing.

I have always like your images and also your approach to photography.

Thanks for sharing!

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Eric & Bob - thank you:) I am searching, we'll see. I got stuck in grayscale with a sterile background for 15 years and now craving texture and color:)

Here is one more from the same shoot:


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« Reply #1967 on: January 13, 2016, 08:11:15 pm »

Thanks CB, Craig and Razrblck. 

To be honest, I was not quite sure what to think about the Irish Coffee image. 

And Chris, laser triggers for my strobes would be pretty damn cool!  8) 

There is a photographer on the West Coast, Bill Cahill (you should check out his work!), who Felicia and I met in NYC about a year ago that told us about those.  Would love some. 

The only problem is that Profoto Acutes, and their monolights, do not produce a flash fast enough to freeze motion.  Even with my Black & Tan pour shot and the image with the stout's head flowing over the side, which did not have a strong effect of gravity, there is motion blur. 

To really freeze time, especially with a wine bottle that has been in free fall for a few feet, I would need the Pro-series lights (Pro-8).  Way out of my budget right now and too damn heavy for my paying work.  Not to mention they suck a lot of power out of the wall and I doubt my place could handle the load. 
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« Reply #1968 on: January 13, 2016, 08:18:53 pm »

Joe, do you know the lower power trick?  Flash duration is markedly shorter at lower outputs.  Dial down the strobe and crank up the ISO!

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« Reply #1969 on: January 13, 2016, 09:04:45 pm »

Joe, do you know the lower power trick?  Flash duration is markedly shorter at lower outputs.  Dial down the strobe and crank up the ISO!

I know that trick, but it only works so well.  I did that with the Black and Tan shot, but still got movement in the stream. 

Now I liked the effect, especially the tiny light streaks from the carbonation being lit up.  I do plan on experimenting with something moving a lot faster, but not so sure about how it will work. 

Honestly, if I could have, in the black and tan pour, I would had used Pro-8s for all of the lights but the one backlighting the stream.  That way, I could have frozen the bubbles on the glass to be tact sharp but kept motion in the stream. 

I would love to experiment with motion, mixing different flash systems with different flash durations together. 
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« Reply #1970 on: January 14, 2016, 12:39:39 am »

Eric & Bob - thank you:) I am searching, we'll see. I got stuck in grayscale with a sterile background for 15 years and now craving texture and color:)

Here is one more from the same shoot:



Keep it up. Change is good. It's cool to see how you see color.
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« Reply #1971 on: January 14, 2016, 11:16:48 am »

Here is a bit more of color!:)
Just going through the archives and editing... this is fun!

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« Reply #1972 on: January 14, 2016, 01:51:13 pm »

Hi,

Personally, I like "credible colour".

I generally like your images. You are a great artist…

Now, some images work for me, while some do less. Anyway, your images are always interesting but also representing a certain amount of challenge.

Keep up that good work! And a lot of thanks for sharing!

Best regards
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Here is a bit more of color!:)
Just going through the archives and editing... this is fun!


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« Reply #1973 on: January 20, 2016, 09:13:56 am »

Okay, so all of the techies are going crazy over the "CCD vs. CMOS" discussion, bringing out all of the bells and whistles and graphs and pier reviewed research articles, o y vey. 

And plus, this discussion was getting a little to far down the page.  Let's bring it back to where we should be, the actual image!

Here are two I shot this week. 
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« Reply #1974 on: January 20, 2016, 10:10:51 am »

Hooray for "the actual image!"

Yours are very sensual, Joe.
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« Reply #1975 on: January 20, 2016, 04:34:29 pm »

Joe, this is my favorite thread for this very reason! +1. Nice shots:)

Erik, here is on "credible colour";)

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« Reply #1976 on: January 21, 2016, 07:16:25 am »

Thank you Mike and Eric.  Never thought about them being sensual, but I guess the beer shot is very sensual. 
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« Reply #1977 on: January 21, 2016, 01:32:47 pm »

Hey Joe, how do you keep the glass that clean? Lots of hand washing?
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« Reply #1978 on: January 21, 2016, 02:15:09 pm »

Hey Joe, how do you keep the glass that clean? Lots of hand washing?

Yes, lots of hand washing! 

First, I set up the shot, get the lighting (and staging) right, make sure the focus and DOF are there, then mark where the glass is. 

I then clean the surface and polish the glass.  I use these thicker blue paper towels that are designed more for use in car and mechanic shops (usually you can find them in the paint section of a hardware store) first, and then a lint free cloth towel next.  Also, there is this stuff called "The Best Glass Cleaner In The World" that is designed for use on offset press plates; I use that for the glass cleaning fluid.

(You could probably also use lens cleaning fluid too.) 

Occasionally, and especially if I am doing a bottle shot, I also break out a razor and Pro-Strength Goof Off for removing the (back) label and glue, if it is paper.  If it is a painted label, then things get serious!  Sulfuric acid painted on with a ferruleless brush, a razor and patience does the trick then.   

All the while I am wearing white lint free gloves that are clean and free of grease. 

Of course, some dust will fall onto the glass and set within the minute or so it takes to get the shot, but Photoshop works for that. 

Lot of work for these kind of shots, and I am just amazed at the amount of dust in the air, it's crazy!  For my interior work, most of my time in post is spent cleaning up color.  For my still life work, color is so easy, but I could spend an hour cleaning up dust, especially if it is a dark image. 

I think though it should start to pay off soon.  I was making cold calls today, got a hold of an art buyer, and he loved that pour shot.  He told me they just started working with a new beer client, and they would probably drool over the idea of their logo on this image. 
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« Reply #1979 on: January 21, 2016, 02:44:22 pm »

Another cool thing about doing all of these table top shots, it's making me loving the fact I bought an Arca Swiss.  The rotoslide adapters provided with each R lens work as really great focusing extenders.  I can focus my 90mm to about 10 inches from the lens. 

Hell, if I took my Rodie 55mm off its ring and put that on my 90 too, I could probably get as close as 7, maybe 6 inches from subject. 

My fiancee is jealous.  8)
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