Topic: Canon 5D Mark III official... (Read 55711 times)

Kirk Gittings · « **Reply #80 on:** March 02, 2012, 05:31:00 pm »

Quit changing the discussion and defend your statement. What is your specific expertise to make this statement about 5DII buyers who professionally shoot architecture.

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architectural photographers not successful enough to use MFDB.

Its real simple just defend that statement.

DeeJay · « **Reply #81 on:** March 02, 2012, 05:38:34 pm »

Why are you bothering?

A statement like that is made by a fool with no idea.

Rhossydd · « **Reply #82 on:** March 02, 2012, 05:41:42 pm »

Quote from: Kirk Gittings on March 02, 2012, 05:31:00 pm

Quit changing the discussion

I think you're the one guilty of that.
But to answer your question, the discussion at the point you're quoting me from was about who the biggest market for the 5D3 will be (and who bought the 5D2). Architectural photographers or video users. We know the answer to that, irrespective of what kit they're using.

Guess I hit a nerve here eh?

Kirk Gittings · « **Reply #83 on:** March 02, 2012, 05:45:00 pm »

So I guess its not defensible?

And FYI I could buy an entire MF digital system just on what I was spending every year on 4x5 film, processing and scans just a couple of years ago. More clueless nonsense. Come on, just defend your statement.

Bernard ODonovan · « **Reply #84 on:** March 02, 2012, 06:19:12 pm »

The Canon CPN web masters probably do not realize their site is not allowing these images to show properly. Hence extracted here so you can view each ''.jpg''. I have added their shooting data. Enjoy...


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Camera:
EOS 5D Mark III
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EF300mm f/2.8L IS II USM
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200
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Evaluative
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AI Servo AF
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Camera:
EOS 5D Mark III
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EF17-40mm f/4L USM
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17mm
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200
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Aperture-Priority AE
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Evaluative
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Auto
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EOS 5D Mark III
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One-Shot AF
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EOS 5D Mark III
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Manual exposure
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Evaluative
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Camera:
EOS 5D Mark III
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EF70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM
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f/8
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EOS 5D Mark III
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EOS 5D Mark III
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EOS 5D Mark III
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EOS 5D Mark III
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Evaluative
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EOS 5D Mark III
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EOS 5D Mark III
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http://cpn.canon-europe.com/files/education/technical/inside_canon_eos_5d_mark_iii/15_cinc_big.jpg

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EOS 5D Mark III
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EOS 5D Mark III
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EOS 5D Mark III
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1/1000sec
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f/8
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6400
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NancyP · « **Reply #85 on:** March 02, 2012, 06:23:35 pm »

Newb amateur here
Fab new bazillion-point AF, but for the bird-in-flight shooter and others using long teles with TC, it doesn't much matter. The IQ improvement at high ISO would be greatly welcomed by those of us still shooting with f5.6 or f8.0 slow long glass, but without AF at those apertures, the better high ISO IQ goes to waste, at least for BIF or fidgety songbirds. On the other hand, if I don't have a 500 f 4 in the immediate budget, why would I have the 5DMkIII in the immediate budget?

PierreVandevenne · « **Reply #86 on:** March 02, 2012, 06:37:43 pm »

Hmmmm,

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/files/education/technical/inside_canon_eos_5d_mark_iii/02_cinc_big.jpg

1:1 this is the perfect example why someone would want a Nikon for that type of photography.

OTOH, other pictures are better and have more punch than the D800.

It seems we have two very different cameras that will unavoidably be compared because of their positions in their respective manufacturer's lineup and their near simultaneous release while in fact, they seem to have their strength in different fields.

Slobodan Blagojevic · « **Reply #87 on:** March 02, 2012, 06:44:33 pm »

Quote from: Bernard ODonovan on March 02, 2012, 06:19:12 pm

The Canon CPN web masters probably do not realize their site is not allowing these images to show properly. Hence extracted here so you can view each ''.jpg''. I have added their shooting data. Enjoy...

Hmmm.... allow me to nominate your post for the worst misuse of bandwidth in the history of LuLa

mmurph · « **Reply #88 on:** March 02, 2012, 06:49:05 pm »

Yeah, I don't understand the reason for that post?

Here is the Japan site if there is a problem with Europe:

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos5dmk3/

Bernard ODonovan · « **Reply #89 on:** March 02, 2012, 06:55:33 pm »

Quote from: mmurph on March 02, 2012, 06:49:05 pm

Yeah, I don't understand the reason for that post?

Here is the Japan site if there is a problem with Europe:

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos5dmk3/

Those are different pictures

bill t. · « **Reply #90 on:** March 02, 2012, 06:58:40 pm »

Quote from: PierreVandevenne on March 02, 2012, 06:37:43 pm

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/files/education/technical/inside_canon_eos_5d_mark_iii/02_cinc_big.jpg

Is it just me, or am I seeing something like heavy handed post processing on many of those samples? For instance, the obvious skyline darkening from a too loose mask at upper left on the .jpg URL noted just above? Nikon gave us much more finessful D800 samples.

Anybody have links to some 5D3 raw files?

welder · « **Reply #91 on:** March 02, 2012, 06:59:05 pm »

Quote from: Rhossydd on March 02, 2012, 05:41:42 pm

I think you're the one guilty of that.
But to answer your question, the discussion at the point you're quoting me from was about who the biggest market for the 5D3 will be (and who bought the 5D2). Architectural photographers or video users. We know the answer to that, irrespective of what kit they're using.

Your analysis of potential market demographics for the 5D3 is irrelevant to your presumption that architecture photographers who use a 5D2 instead of a MFDB must not be very successful.

Or perhaps you think that Canon never intended the 5D2 be used for architectural photography. Guess they should've told us before we bought all those 17 and 24 TSE lenses...

Derryck · « **Reply #92 on:** March 02, 2012, 07:15:34 pm »

From a commercial photography point of view this camera makes a lot of sense to me (as an owner of too many Canon lenses to switch back to Nikon). First off two stops cleaner iso means less lighting gear that I have to fly around the country, with the ability to shoot at 400iso that looks like 100iso. Built in HDR will hopefully mean less time needed to be combining bracketed exposures which when shooting the interior of a hotel room is up to 7 sets of 3 exposures. Better AF might mean that it's actually a useful feature unlike the current version. A sensor that has much less problems with moire and aliasing means that I can video an interior at an f stop greater than 2.8 without worrying what's happening to the image in the background behind the subject (less time fixing in post).

For the past four years I've averaged around 180 shoot days per year which when combined with pre and post production means that any new piece of equipment that saves time and money is worth it. This camera pays for itself very quickly and when was the last time your clients said they needed to use your files bigger than A2?

Derryck.

Wayne Fox · « **Reply #93 on:** March 02, 2012, 07:53:44 pm »

Quote from: hjulenissen on March 02, 2012, 03:54:18 pm

It seems that the mk3 is able to use all sensels for video, while the mk2 does line-dropping. If true, this should give a significant improvement to aliasing and noise-performance.

-h

the minor resolution upgrade seems puzzling, but is Exactly 1920x3 - seems they could pixel bin 9 pixels to 1 for high def video.

Kirk Gittings · « **Reply #94 on:** March 02, 2012, 08:00:45 pm »

Quote

For the past four years I've averaged around 180 shoot days per year which when combined with pre and post production means that any new piece of equipment that saves time and money is worth it. This camera pays for itself very quickly and when was the last time your clients said they needed to use your files bigger than A2?

So true. I started using my 5D as opposed to 4x5 film for commercial shoots when the last local E-6 lab shut down. I figured it would hold me until I figured out how I really wanted to shoot digital. I enjoyed it so much after 30 years of lugging around a 4x5 that I stuck with it. A DSLR was liberating in terms of production and creatively. When the new T/S lenses came out and the 5DII I was locked in. Interestingly in that time not a single client has ever complained (and I have allot of top name national clients) about file size or IQ. On the contrary with the 5DII I got some complaints about file sizes being too large.....seriously.

Wayne Fox · « **Reply #95 on:** March 02, 2012, 08:02:04 pm »

Quote from: Rhossydd on March 02, 2012, 04:48:39 pm

Totally clueless ? no. I might not be a professional architectural photographer, although I know a few that are, but I am a television professional and know the impact of the 5D2 and size of that market very well. Any knowledge of that market Kirk ? It doesn't seem to feature in your CV.

The problem with your statement wasn't related to the market size of architectural photographers vs video for canon, it was the way you implied any architectural photographer using dslr did so because they couldn't afford MF, which came across in a demeaning tone. In fact most architectural photographers use both.

dreed · « **Reply #96 on:** March 02, 2012, 08:07:08 pm »

Quote from: Wayne Fox on March 02, 2012, 07:53:44 pm

the minor resolution upgrade seems puzzling, but is Exactly 1920x3 - seems they could pixel bin 9 pixels to 1 for high def video.

There have been quotes bandied around that this will be the DSLR for video use.

As was said earlier in this thread, the 5D2 had a serious impact on professional video use for TV and other areas.

I would not be surprised to find that Canon were specifically targetting all of those that bought the 5D2 for video work with this current camera.

Wayne Fox · « **Reply #97 on:** March 02, 2012, 08:25:26 pm »

Quote from: Rhossydd on March 02, 2012, 05:25:22 am

Getting shot of inventory probably. The more interesting question is will the MKii still be coming off a production line ?
I doubt the mkIII will be easy to get for a long time based on past experience.

The Mark2 is not being discontinued, it will still be coming off a production line. Canon's strategy will most likely be similar to Nikon's with the d700.

Deep · « **Reply #98 on:** March 02, 2012, 08:55:54 pm »

One point many seem to miss when lamenting the lower pixel count of the 5DIII versus the D800 is that the D800 will have to have the very finest glass, focussed with critical precision and with no motion blur for the modest resolution increase to be even visible. It will absolutely punish any slight misfocus if viewed at the sort of resolution that requires such a high pixel count. It's likely some landscape/studio photographers will be able to benefit but, for any handheld use in anything but the best light, those extra pixels are a waste of card space. Sure, 36 sounds more impressive than 22 but, since pixel counts got over 12Mp, the benefits of more pixels have got lost by real world factors in the majority of photographs taken.

Time will tell how good the 5DIII really is versus it's Nikon/Sony/Leica competition. For now, however, it looks like most real drawbacks of an already very popular camera have been addressed in this new model.

I'm neutral in this debate, not having any modern Canon or Nikon gear. If I was to go with one or the other, the decision wouldn't be made on the pixel count!

Don

mmurph · « **Reply #99 on:** March 02, 2012, 10:11:30 pm »

Nikon has a 10 page "technical paper" on the 800. They have examples of how diffraction limited the sensor is beyond f/8.0. So yes, the incremental advantage of the 36 vs 22 MP will be useful only on the largest physical prints with best technique.

I actually have both on pre-order. I have an order in for the 800E and the 5D3. I need a new full frame camera.

The bias will be toward Canon for me, however, as I have at least 7 high end Canon lenses.

I shoot almost 100% high quality studio lighting at ISO 100, either in the studio or on location. Focus has never been an issue. For me it will all come down to comparing images at 24"x36" and 44"x66".

I just sold all of my 4"x5" equipment (6 cameras) to make a commitment to 1 digital camera.

Michael

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