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Isaac

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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #140 on: July 23, 2013, 02:25:25 am »

Just in this discussion others have chosen to post: hectoring questions, supportive comments, comedic asides, personal anecdotes, ...

As you say -- As Casey said, "You could look it up."
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #141 on: July 23, 2013, 10:41:31 am »

Well, I agree that's a lot of fun and I enjoy it too, but this forum is supposed to be about photographs.
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #142 on: July 23, 2013, 12:39:41 pm »

This forum is supposed to be about -- "opinions on photography as an art form".

Do your descriptions of cameras and lenses and shoulder straps express an opinion on photography as an art form?
Do they say anything about Gursky's photography?

Physician, heal thyself;

In retrospect, only Ray seems to have had an informed opinion about Rhein II.
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #143 on: July 23, 2013, 12:51:14 pm »

In retrospect, only Ray seems to have had an informed opinion about Rhein II.
No.

Have you ever actually seen the work yourself ? or any original Gursky prints ?
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #144 on: July 23, 2013, 12:56:31 pm »

No, I haven't seen Rhein II.

Ray deserves more than your one word dismissal ;-)
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #145 on: July 23, 2013, 01:21:20 pm »

No, I haven't seen Rhein II.
Maybe instead of making one line comments and quoting others, you should make the effort to see the work yourself so you could offer your own informed opinion.
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Ray deserves more than your one word dismissal ;-)
The one word dismissal was aimed at you because other comments here have expressed informed opinion.
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #146 on: July 23, 2013, 01:31:24 pm »

to see the work yourself

Seems that the Tate owns one, and MOMA owns one -- where are the other 4?

The one word dismissal was aimed at you because other comments here have expressed informed opinion.

I'd already dismissed my opinion about Rhein II when I put only Ray in bold :-)

Please do link to those other "informed" opinions.
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #147 on: July 23, 2013, 02:00:34 pm »

Seems that the Tate owns one, and MOMA owns one -- where are the other 4?
So you haven't actually seen a Gursky original print at all then ?
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Please do link to those other "informed" opinions.
At least my comment #45 is based on having seen the work (and other Gursky originals)
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #148 on: July 23, 2013, 02:23:06 pm »

So you haven't actually seen a Gursky original print at all then ?

Asked and answered.


At least my comment...

comment #45

You got that it was big :-)
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #149 on: July 23, 2013, 02:28:36 pm »

Asked and answered.
Actually you haven't answered, because I asked if you'd seen any Gursky original, not just RheinII, but I assume your answer will still be no.

You need to see an original to get any sort of understanding of his work.
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #150 on: July 23, 2013, 02:34:14 pm »

Actually you haven't answered, because I asked if you'd seen any Gursky original, not just RheinII, but I assume your answer will still be no.

I asked where are the other 4 prints of Rhein II, so people could follow your injunction to see the work themselves.

From there you jumped to the conclusion that I haven't seen any Gursky original -- your reasoning is broken, and as a matter of fact wrong.
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #151 on: July 23, 2013, 02:49:35 pm »

I asked where are the other 4 prints of Rhein II,
I don't know.
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From there you jumped to the conclusion that I haven't seen any Gursky original -- your reasoning is broken, and as a matter of fact wrong.
When you fail to answer......

So which Gursky originals have you seen and what did you think of them ? Did you see them before you knew of their valuations ? if so did seeing the originals change your view of their worth ?
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #152 on: July 23, 2013, 04:06:14 pm »

I asked where are the other 4 prints of Rhein II, so people could follow your injunction to see the work themselves.

From there you jumped to the conclusion that I haven't seen any Gursky original -- your reasoning is broken, and as a matter of fact wrong.

So this is what you mean by " hectoring questions, supportive comments, comedic asides, personal anecdotes." I'd say the activities pretty much end after the first one.
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #153 on: July 23, 2013, 04:27:29 pm »

So this is what you mean by " hectoring questions, supportive comments, comedic asides, personal anecdotes." I'd say the activities pretty much end after the first one.
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #154 on: July 23, 2013, 04:39:32 pm »

A wise man recently said:

... I have sometimes thought he might let go of subjects a bit sooner...

 ;)

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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #155 on: July 23, 2013, 05:26:19 pm »

So this is what you mean by " hectoring questions, supportive comments, comedic asides, personal anecdotes." I'd say the activities pretty much end after the first one.

Nothing there that expresses an opinion on photography as an art form.
Nothing there that says anything about Gursky's photography.

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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #156 on: July 23, 2013, 05:35:05 pm »

Thanks, Isaac. You confirmed what I said.
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #157 on: July 23, 2013, 05:46:52 pm »

Thanks, Isaac. You confirmed what I said.

Russ, what you said cannot be true -- my words, which you quote, contain no questions.
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #158 on: July 23, 2013, 05:54:31 pm »

This thread reminds me of when tried to pull a stick out of a girlfriend's dog's mouth.  I pulled and he clamped down and resisted.  I'd pull harder, he'd clamp down and pull back harder, I'd lighten up, he'd relax. So we're standing there each pulling on the stick, and I looked into his eyes and there was absolutely no one at home.

Back to topic, although IMO anyone who pays $4 million for a contemporary photograph has more money than sense, I expect the Gurskys are very impressive seen in person.  I understand that Eli Broad is quite a Gursky collector, so I am hoping there will a few on display at the Broad Museum when it opens next year.
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Re: Andreas Gursky's Rhein II
« Reply #159 on: July 23, 2013, 06:19:53 pm »

When you fail to answer...

When I fail to answer, you are not compelled to make up answers.

So which Gursky originals have you seen and what did you think of them ? Did you see them before you knew of their valuations ? if so did seeing the originals change your view of their worth ?

Hong Kong Stock Exchange, don't remember, don't remember, don't remember (but my usual view is that a thing is worth what someone will pay).

You didn't offer your answers to those questions -- and that's OK.
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