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jonathan.lipkin

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90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« on: June 06, 2011, 03:55:07 pm »

Does anyone have a recommendation for a bracket that will allow me to rotate my H3 90 degrees? There were two mentioned on this or another forum - really right and Kirk. Any preference between the two, or another brand I should look at?

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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 04:09:05 pm »

The two you mention are probably the best ones around, I don't have any experience with Kirk but have been 100% happy with the stuff I've bought from RRS.

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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 04:37:02 pm »

You could look at Arca-Swiss - it's very universal system, you can change it for any of your cameras.
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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 09:29:51 pm »

I have the Kirk. Not used the RRS. The Kirk works well, but the fitting is a bit tight, and after you attach the L bracket, the button to release the back on the side is a little hard to get to. And also one of the ports (wired flash sync. I don't fuss over this because I use PW-II to release my strobes, but the backup in case of problem with the PW is inconvenient, as it will involve taking off the bracket...which as I mentioned, a tight fit) on the left is blocked.

But the bracket is stable, and a boon to use when you need to change orientation from landscape to portrait and back.
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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2011, 06:26:42 am »

Hi

I have the kirk bracket and it works well. However... I purchased a gitzo ball head around the same time with spirit levels on it and the kirk bracket can rotate on the gitzo head as there is only one screw. The kirk is an arca fit so if you have an arca head you'll be flying.

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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 09:58:52 pm »

i have a RRS bracket, and i think it would definitely be better than the arca. the arca doesn't have anything to locate on the base of the camera- i think it would loosen all the time as Theres a fair bit of weight for it to hold in vertical position. ive attached a couple of shots to show how the bracket is very well located- ie strong. also acts as good protection for the camera body- i don't have to worry about sitting it on concrete for example.
i dont know if the kirk is like this, but seems to slide the camera on front to back- which may suit some people. the RRS slides on sideways.

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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 03:36:39 am »

i have a RRS bracket, and i think it would definitely be better than the arca. the arca doesn't have anything to locate on the base of the camera- i think it would loosen all the time as Theres a fair bit of weight for it to hold in vertical position. ive attached a couple of shots to show how the bracket is very well located- ie strong. also acts as good protection for the camera body- i don't have to worry about sitting it on concrete for example.
i dont know if the kirk is like this, but seems to slide the camera on front to back- which may suit some people. the RRS slides on sideways.

paul


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RRS Like it much better than ARCA.

Have or had RRS on all 6 canon bodies, Nikons, all my contax, everything except the Leica and the RED.

Also three RRS ball heads.

No problems, well built, etc. etc. etc.

IMO

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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 06:02:21 am »

i have a RRS bracket, and i think it would definitely be better than the arca. the arca doesn't have anything to locate on the base of the camera- i think it would loosen all the time as Theres a fair bit of weight for it to hold in vertical position. ive attached a couple of shots to show how the bracket is very well located- ie strong. also acts as good protection for the camera body- i don't have to worry about sitting it on concrete for example.
i dont know if the kirk is like this, but seems to slide the camera on front to back- which may suit some people. the RRS slides on sideways.

paul

Paul, Did you ever have used this system from the Arca Swiss? I use and am very happy, do not have the slightest problem with the citation of cables, you can build from that whatever you come up with. And like other products of this company, nothing is moving, the connections are solid. By the way, to any camera mounting plates are appropriate. Anyone who uses a product from under the mark knows what I say. So please do not say that something is better just because you use it yourself. It sounded almost like you had shares in this company. A colleague asked, and we provide information, he decides what is best for him...
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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 03:05:46 pm »

Paul, Did you ever have used this system from the Arca Swiss? I use and am very happy, do not have the slightest problem with the citation of cables, you can build from that whatever you come up with. And like other products of this company, nothing is moving, the connections are solid. By the way, to any camera mounting plates are appropriate. Anyone who uses a product from under the mark knows what I say. So please do not say that something is better just because you use it yourself. It sounded almost like you had shares in this company. A colleague asked, and we provide information, he decides what is best for him...


maybe the arca is sweet, but i am giving my opinion after using dozens of plane (un-located) base plates and mounts for over twenty years- they all come loose. you cant rely on just one bit of rubber and one screw to hold a camera. im voicing my opinion about "plain" multi camera plates and mounts, i cant see that arca has done it different. even tightening up very hard doesn't make a difference, its been a major annoyance of mine fro a long time.

its inherent in the design- if you can rotate the base- even a little, the plate comes loose. the RRS dosent, and i use them on quite a few cameras. its logic, not "brand preference" , if theres a custom locating "shape" , the camera will be held properly.
it dosent need to be RRS, it could be kirk, or one of those custom L-plates on ebay, but i assure you they wont loosen because the camera is held. Even view factors cage works as it has two extra small screws that screw up and locate into holds the camera to stop rotating.

i do strap my cameras onto challenging places- sides of cars, ends of rigs, inside underwater housings, but the RRS has never caused and mounting issues, im sure the other brands of the same design will be the same.

as for brand loyalty, im allowed to sing the praises of one of the few pieces of equipment ive bought that does its job perfectly.

paul



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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2011, 03:20:24 pm »

Poul, there is nothing wrong that you're happy with the equipment. Your hardware is solid, very solid. I can only disagree with one word that you used - "better "
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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2011, 05:43:17 pm »

I use the RRS L bracket but I strongly recommend that you use an RRS screw type clamp as the lever clamps can easily come undone.  Also if you into use the RRS/Kirk l Plate on an Arca Swiss Cube or similar you need to change the clamp for an RRS or Kirk replacement.  The Arca system is slightly different and their clamping system IMO is a POS.

The Kirk and RRS L Plates have their irritations but nothing serious and if you intend to take the back off I think the L plate should be removed first.

   
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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2011, 10:38:01 pm »

the Kirk L Plate allows the back to be removed without having to remove the plate. The side release button is a bit tight to manouver, but it is possible, and I routinely remove the back to blow dust off.

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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2011, 03:38:37 am »

I use the RRS. I have only used the screw-type clamp and can recommend it. I practically leave the L-bracket on the body all the time. I do not have to remove the bracket before taking the back off. It is somewhat difficult to press the button on the side to do so.

The RRS bracket has some space on the side between itself and the body. I believe the Kirk has a somewhat tighter fit. This might make a small difference when taking shots in portrait mode or when using the body hand-held with the bracket still in place. It has not been a reason for me to replace the RRS with a Kirk.

Without the desire to sound as if I hold shares in RRS I do use pretty much all of their products and most of them are really nice.
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Re: 90 degree bracket for hasselblad
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2011, 04:53:51 pm »

the Kirk L Plate allows the back to be removed without having to remove the plate. The side release button is a bit tight to manouver, but it is possible, and I routinely remove the back to blow dust off.

you can remove the back quite easily with a RRS bracket- it has a scollop out were the lever is. but the bracket does obscure the flash sync plug awkwardly, but it can still be used.

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