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stuartkeith

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Lense Advce
« on: February 16, 2011, 05:59:48 pm »

Hi guys. Been after a camera for ages as I have been asked to do my mates weddng pics in June. I was after the canon 550d as I am also looking to do AP with my helis and wanted the HD video and live view.

Unfortunatly my father in law died a cpl weeks ago and I have been given a load of SLR camera stuff one an Old son dsc-f717 and the other a cano Eos 400D  ;D

So Im sorted for a camera to learn on. I just need to get a battery charger for it.

It has the EFS 17-85mm lense at present.

What lense would be suitable for portrait styles for a wedding?

Cheers guys

STu
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Re: Lense Advce
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2011, 07:38:25 pm »

I assume you are talking about which lenses would be appropriately matched with the 400D?

If so, the 17-85mm will do the job, it is of reasonable quality.

If you want to handle some lower light conditions on the cheap, the Canon 50mm f/1.8 II will likely fit the bill.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 02:26:03 pm »

Anything in the 40-60mm or so range will work.  All that matters, really, is that it have good bokeh and goes down to 1.4 or so if possible, for those "dreamy" type interior/natural lighting shots that the bride will almost certainly want. 
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 04:20:35 pm »

Hi guys. Been after a camera for ages as I have been asked to do my mates weddng pics in June. I was after the canon 550d as I am also looking to do AP with my helis and wanted the HD video and live view.

Unfortunatly my father in law died a cpl weeks ago and I have been given a load of SLR camera stuff one an Old son dsc-f717 and the other a cano Eos 400D  ;D

So Im sorted for a camera to learn on. I just need to get a battery charger for it.

It has the EFS 17-85mm lense at present.

What lense would be suitable for portrait styles for a wedding?

Cheers guys

STu



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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 12:36:37 am »

Yeah, I was being nice about that - maybe he can pull it off.  But to be honest, never mix serious events with family and/or friends with work.  Total landmine waiting to happen unless you are a serious pro already and can do it in your sleep.  Like myself - fixing computers I can do that at the level where I am happy to work for friends and family.  I have 20 years experience, though...

Just a thought...

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 06:14:52 pm »

I told him that Im not sure I am the best person to do it! Im also the best man as well! but he said he trusts me and cant afford a proper photograher!!

On the flip side I do have a City and Guilds deploma in Photograhpy as I was at collage for 2 years studing it. But these were all on non digital SLRs.

I have 5 Non DSLRs here with lenses I was thinking of getting an adpter for olympus OM mounts lenses and pentax mount.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 07:21:35 pm »

I told him that Im not sure I am the best person to do it! Im also the best man as well! but he said he trusts me and cant afford a proper photograher!!

On the flip side I do have a City and Guilds deploma in Photograhpy as I was at collage for 2 years studing it. But these were all on non digital SLRs.

I have 5 Non DSLRs here with lenses I was thinking of getting an adpter for olympus OM mounts lenses and pentax mount.

Get a proper wedding photographer or don't bother with photos at all.

Wedding photography is a specialist skill ( to me it seems like a combination of good people skills, a high level of technical competence and having the right kit: fast lenses, flashes and for gawd's sake a back up camera body ). I couldn't do it.

My other half has some friends in London - high earners, clever people - who got married a couple of years ago. Instead of hiring a wedding photographer they decided that they'd just use photos that the guests at their wedding ( high earners, clever people ) took to make up their album.

The photos were s**t and there tears and recriminations within the grooms family for some time afterwards.

Don't put yourself in this situation - I reckon enough can go wrong with being the best man.

Enjoy the day.

Graeme
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 07:32:38 pm »

Get a proper wedding photographer or don't bother with photos at all.

Wedding photography is a specialist skill ( to me it seems like a combination of good people skills, a high level of technical competence and having the right kit: fast lenses, flashes and for gawd's sake a back up camera body ). I couldn't do it.

My other half has some friends in London - high earners, clever people - who got married a couple of years ago. Instead of hiring a wedding photographer they decided that they'd just use photos that the guests at their wedding ( high earners, clever people ) took to make up their album.

The photos were s**t and there tears and recriminations within the grooms family for some time afterwards.

Don't put yourself in this situation - I reckon enough can go wrong with being the best man.

Enjoy the day.

Graeme

My thoughts excatly. Will be missing out on shots doing the best man thing as well! but I have told him over and over but he wont take no! He even offered to let me borrow his new panasonic compact camera to use before I got the canon to take the pics!  :D ;D
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2011, 04:30:04 am »

Wow.  A compact camera? Run, don't walk, away from this. 

Lie a bit and downplay your experience.  And remind him if you can do it tactfully that the photos are really for his wife and there's no way that you can possibly do it well enough to make her happy with the results. He won't listen to you, but he will take pause at the idea of his wife-to-be having a major issue over sub-standard photos on her special day.  Also mention that if you mess up, she'll be mad at you, his best friend, for a really long time.(ie - she'll make it harder to let you spend time hanging out together and so on just because she's pissed at both of you or pulling a stunt like this.  There' no way that she won't think that you both came up with this together.

It's a disaster any way that you look at it.

Here's a nice way to broach the subject: Ask him if he's run this plan by her and gotten her approval.  I guarantee that he's going to not say that she's great with it/100% on board already, and there's your perfect get out of jail free card.  ie - "Oh, no no no.  I'm not getting in between you two like this - there's no way I'm crazy enough to try this on on her special day."
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2011, 09:38:44 am »

Wow.  A compact camera? Run, don't walk, away from this. 

Lie a bit and downplay your experience.  And remind him if you can do it tactfully that the photos are really for his wife and there's no way that you can possibly do it well enough to make her happy with the results. He won't listen to you, but he will take pause at the idea of his wife-to-be having a major issue over sub-standard photos on her special day.  Also mention that if you mess up, she'll be mad at you, his best friend, for a really long time.(ie - she'll make it harder to let you spend time hanging out together and so on just because she's pissed at both of you or pulling a stunt like this.  There' no way that she won't think that you both came up with this together.

It's a disaster any way that you look at it.

Here's a nice way to broach the subject: Ask him if he's run this plan by her and gotten her approval.  I guarantee that he's going to not say that she's great with it/100% on board already, and there's your perfect get out of jail free card.  ie - "Oh, no no no.  I'm not getting in between you two like this - there's no way I'm crazy enough to try this on on her special day."

Issue is Was her told him to ask me! I will tell them again. other wise got a few months to practice lol
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2011, 01:00:53 pm »

Your friendship is too important to risk on a thing like this.  Even if the bride and groom are happy with the pictures, other people will have different opinions.  But I doubt, strongly doubt, that they will be any happier than anyone else, just more outwardly forgiving.  Being a best man is a very important job.  I think that is all you can do under the circumstances. 

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2011, 03:18:04 am »

Issue is Was her told him to ask me! I will tell them again. other wise got a few months to practice lol

Wow.

Simply say no and leave it at that.  You can deal with a slight bit of hurt feelings now.  And also, you can't be the Best Man and the photographer at the same time.  It's physically impossible.  You have a lot of stuff on your plate as it is.

That said, even paying a pro a small fee for basic pictures is well worth it.   20 fantastic pictures is worth a whole memory card of half-baked stuff.  My sister paid the money and the pictures are incredible, especially the black and white ones shot on 6X7 film.  Yes, the pro had no less than three cameras and 5-6 backups in her car.  Every piece of gear you could imagine and some even I didn't know you'd need or want.
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2011, 08:16:16 am »

You may do a fantastic job with terrific shots and everyone really delighted.... the problem is the word "may"......no offence.

Pay professional... keep friends.....avoid a photographic minefield. Even with a pro. there's always one person who blames the photog. because he/she didn't smile on cue
or looked upwards at the wrong moment.

If you take the plunge and do it, check your lens for edge definition regarding group shots... you could be better off buying a prime for them.

Don't forget, whatever goes wrong... from flat light to flat beer...... it's your fault! (Sorry......)
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2011, 09:16:10 am »

A wedding photographer I know told me that 80% of the photo shoot is stress. Add the stress of being best man and you are out of your league?  ::)

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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2011, 01:31:12 pm »

A wedding photographer I know told me that 80% of the photo shoot is stress. Add the stress of being best man and you are out of your league?  ::)
And out of your mind!

Jeremy
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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2011, 07:22:20 pm »

Have you considered offering to take some photos before the wedding, say at one of the "showers" or some other get together?

Then do such a botch job on the photos that hopefully the bride and groom will reconsider having you do the photography for the wedding ...
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2011, 07:44:07 am »

Disclosure: I shot weddings last century. Won’t do them now at the age of 58 because of the sheer stress of getting things right on a very important day for the bride.

As others have stated, you already have an important role at the wedding.

Sure, you could haul out a good-quality compact (with flash set a stop down from ambient) and snap away at the reception for relaxed candids. I have done this with the likes of a Panasonic LX3 and more recently the GF1 with the brilliant 20/1.7. I underexpose both the flash and the ambient light using low-ish shutter speeds and wide apertures, taking many shots because some will not work. Example from an art exhibition opening (GF1 20mm f2.8 1/60 iso 100):



But stepping out with a camera from your best man post to snap pix of the couple exchanging rings and having that veil-lifted kiss? Tacky.

There are photographs of any wedding that only an experienced photographer should be making. Why not approach some friends and pool resources to buy a photographer’s services as a wedding present? Traditionally this has been the responsibility of the bride’s family, but if they cannot afford it, another way has to be found.

It should not be hard to find somebody who will attend the ceremony, and take some time for group shots after the ceremony, at a reasonable price. Then others, such as you, can fire away to make the folksy pix that will be used to fill out the album.
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2011, 07:17:03 am »

Well just about managed to do the job, some pics were better than others but for a 1st go I am quite happy WDYT?


Wedding pics!
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2011, 08:49:31 pm »

Well just about managed to do the job, some pics were better than others but for a 1st go I am quite happy WDYT?


Wedding pics!

Well, good for you, mate. Tough job to blend with best-manning it, I think they turned out all right. Were your friends happy? That's what really counts.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2011, 06:21:11 pm »

Finally finished the pictures put onto dvd to give to him!

Been asked to do two more weddings as well!

LOL blimey must have made an impression haha!
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