Query for Phaseone and/or dealers...P45+ chassis upgrade idea?

[NROCH]

I've been reading all the press blurb and also topics here on the forums.

I'm P45+ and RL3D user. Martin at Arca has always been extremely accommodating with any technical aspects when I was switching from the F-line to the RL3D. Arca have a close relationship with phasone and that fed through into resolving certain aspects that meant that my kit works flawlessly, it's a service I certainly appreciate when working with this high-end kit.

That's just a bit of background for my topic; I love the new interface/screen/connections of the new IQ DBs, is there room for an option to upgrade my P45+ (keeping the sensor/internals the same) into an IQ chassis so that I can have these new aspects but keep my p45+ brain?? I would be prepared to pay for it of course. I like that there is now another range within the phaseone line-up, but it's not something I want to move over to but I do like some of the features. I assume they must be applicable to the P45+ ??

Thoughts?

N

[gazwas]

+1

The P45+ would a super digi back in the new chassis and IMO a better option than the P40+. 

We don't all need 60 or 80MP but longer exposures and 1.1 crop would be a much better option for me. Maybe we all (those interested) should send a support ticket to Phase and ask if this is a possibility.

[Schewe]

Thoughts?

Technically, I think it's highly unlikely.

[JSK]

I've been reading all the press blurb and also topics here on the forums.

I love the new interface/screen/connections of the new IQ DBs, is there room for an option to upgrade my P45+ (keeping the sensor/internals the same) into an IQ chassis so that I can have these new aspects but keep my p45+ brain?? I would be prepared to pay for it of course. I like that there is now another range within the phaseone line-up, but it's not something I want to move over to but I do like some of the features. I assume they must be applicable to the P45+ ??

Thoughts?

N

the fact that P45+ is in its own class and considering that is still in production for future customers with already solid number of established users
it would fit the sweet spot of the new IQ line up extremely well!!!

so +1 for sure!!!

[darylgo]

A Phase One rep had said several months ago that he gets many requests for the p25+(now discontinued).  Maybe Phase will listen to the many requests for longer exposures/lower mp full frame backs.  Sign me up for an IQ45+.

[yossarians22]

another vote for long exposure of some kind w/ the IQ updates

[gazwas]

Just put a support ticket in for an IQ145 with Phase........ worth a try? 

[BJNY]

If there was enough demand causing Leaf to offer Aptus 12 in AFi/Hy6 mount,

surely there will be much more interest in P45+ in IQ chassis.

[NROCH]

Technically, I think it's highly unlikely.

Technically it sounds possible to me, surely. Perhaps there will indeed be an IQP45+ and I'm just pre-empting it, but I would like the option to do it now..with all this new tech about it would be very useful. I'll send phase a ticket!

[simplify]

I don't know how the upgrade option would work.  Will people pay $16,000 to update their current P45+ to an IQ145+.  16 grand for a different interface but same image quality is a bit much for me.  I would pay 16-20 grand for an upgrade to an IQ180 with long exposure capabilities  ie. Kodak chip. 

[Steve Hendrix]

If there was enough demand causing Leaf to offer Aptus 12 in AFi/Hy6 mount,

surely there will be much more interest in P45+ in IQ chassis.

I agree that potentially there might be a larger number of users wishing to pay for an upgrade from P45+ to an IQ45+ than upgraders to AFi-II 12. However, the technology, R&D, and expense involved would in my opinion be substantially more involved, even if it is possible at all to meld a P45+ with IQ technology.

I would say that while I have the feeling that what the P45+ can do won't be reproduced with the same technology, I believe it is possible that there may be a product that comes close to what the P45+ offers at some point. Don't know this for sure and don't know when that would be. But that is what I think. If it would be feasible to meld a P45+ with IQ technology, I would be all for it. I just think the path won't be quite so direct.


Steve Hendrix

[simplify]

I would say that while I have the feeling that what the P45+ can do won't be reproduced with the same technology, I believe it is possible that there may be a product that comes close to what the P45+ offers at some point. Don't know this for sure and don't know when that would be. But that is what I think. if it would be feasible to meld a P45+ with IQ technology, I would be all for it. I just think the path won't be quite so direct.

very well said.

[Schewe]

I agree that potentially there might be a larger number of users wishing to pay for an upgrade from P45+ to an IQ45+ than upgraders to AFi-II 12. However, the technology, R&D, and expense involved would in my opinion be substantially more involved, even if it is possible at all to meld a P45+ with IQ technology.

I suspect it would be a lot less challenging to put a new sensor with long exposure capabilities in the new electronics and chassis that it would be to try to retroactively try to stick in an older chip design into the new chassis.

[Erick Boileau]

I believe it is possible that there may be a product that comes close to what the P45+ offers at some point. Don't know this for sure and don't know when that would be. But that is what I think. If it would be feasible to meld a P45+ with IQ technology, I would be all for it. I just think the path won't be quite so direct.

You said that it will never come on another topic ... as a trader you have a great adaptability :-) fine !

[Steve Hendrix]

You said that it will never come on another topic ... as a trader you have a great adaptability :-) fine !

Geez....you guys. Please show me where I said there would never be another Phase One product that would capture long exposures. And I'm not a trader, whatever you mean by that Erick.


Steve Hendrix

[Erick Boileau]

Geez....you guys. Please show me where I said there would never be another Phase One product that would capture long exposures. And I'm not a trader, whatever you mean by that Erick.


Steve Hendrix

  a P45 +  or any Camera , anyway they are the same but the screen

[Steve Hendrix]

  a P45 +  or any Camera , anyway they are the same but the screen

Erick -

You stated that I posted Phase One would never release a product like the P45+ again. I don't understand this response from you, but I asked if you feel I stated that, to please post the link.

Thank you,
Steve

[Erick Boileau]

Erick -

You stated that I posted Phase One would never release a product like the P45+ again. I don't understand this response from you, but I asked if you feel I stated that, to please post the link.

Thank you,
Steve

I asked for a phaseone FF  with 40 mp and that good screen and you saif it will never come

you said : But if you're asking for a small number of megapixels on a large sensor, that will never happen for quality reasons.  and I answered that in your opinion a P45+ has a small number of megapixels and the IQ is not good (of course a P45+ is not totaly a FF)

I dont see any difference between IQ1xx  and a P45+ except the screen  and the firmware

[Steve Hendrix]

I asked for a phaseone FF  with 40 mp and that good screen and you saif it will never come

you said : But if you're asking for a small number of megapixels on a large sensor, that will never happen for quality reasons.  and I answered that in your opinion a P45+ has a small number of megapixels and the IQ is not good (of course a P45+ is not totaly a FF)

I dont see any difference between IQ1xx  and a P45+ except the screen  and the firmware

Erick, I really don't understand what you're saying but my main concern is when someone says I have stated something that I have not. I asked you for a link, which you haven't posted. But regardless, if you are saying that I believe a full frame (and from this I assume you mean 645 or larger) at 40MP or fewer megapixels will never happen, (regardless of the quality of the LCD screen) then yes, I stand behind that statement. It is only my opinion, after all.

I don't see what it has to do with my quote from this thread that you cited where I offered my belief that long exposure capability would be more likely to occur in a Phase One product at some point in the future rather than in a special edition P45+ IQ product.

Steve Hendrix

[Erick Boileau]

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