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WalterEG

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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #720 on: February 10, 2012, 03:29:12 pm »

Guys,

I am always cautious, never to say 'never'.  There have been, and there will be, some rewarding images of exposed epidermis in all sorts of places ..... including rockscapes, derelict structures and rotted tree-trunks.

I guess a large part of my disinterest in adding to the abundance is shying away from cliché.

The notion that when we look through the viewfinder "if we see something we have seen before then don't shoot" is somewhat axiomatic for me in my personal work.  Of course, commercial image haberdashery for clients is another thing again — they tend to revere cliché because there is less challenge, and hence less risk, of alienating punters.

Cheers,

W
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« Reply #721 on: February 10, 2012, 03:59:03 pm »

Cliché.

Ah Walter, if you let that enter your mind you are done for, effed and hung out to dry and truly hoist by your own - well, not petard, but consciousness. Everything is now a cliché and the thing is to make yours the definitive one. In other words, you have to revert to the artistic trick of theft: not petty, but grand larceny, just like the white rock´n´roll artists of the 50s did. Do you know that many, today, still believe that Elvis and Jerry invented it? Some even think it was Cliff!

Were I to subscibe to your philosophy (for a while, I did to Heff's), then I would have never bought anything photographic after I retired from active service. I'd have died years ago (do I hear muted groans of disappointment from the back rows?) from terminal boredom, stifled in the knowledge that it has all  been done before and better.

On the other hand, that applies to many things in life beyond the noble art of snapping (I have recently realised that quite a few other things are noble arts); where would civilization be today if we'd given up immediately after Adam had had his big moment under the apple tree? There was a warning song about that during WW2. You know, don't stand under one?

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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #722 on: February 10, 2012, 04:19:40 pm »

Speaking of loosing one's marbles, I went to bed last night with Riaan van Wyk's post in my head and dreamt of the consequences of Da Vinci listening to Harry or Rob while painting the Last Supper, or Adams shooting Moon and Half Dome. Of course, some artists undoubtedly succumbed. I believe Botticelli's Venus started out as Still Life with Sea Food.
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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #723 on: February 10, 2012, 08:04:18 pm »

I love the graphic David!  Thanks.
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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #724 on: February 10, 2012, 09:23:26 pm »

I love the graphic David!  Thanks.
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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #725 on: February 11, 2012, 05:09:51 am »

Speaking of loosing one's marbles, I went to bed last night with Riaan van Wyk's post in my head and dreamt of the consequences of Da Vinci listening to Harry or Rob while painting the Last Supper, or Adams shooting Moon and Half Dome. Of course, some artists undoubtedly succumbed. I believe Botticelli's Venus started out as Still Life with Sea Food.




Close, but not quite: the original shell wasn't an oyster one as oyster's shells are imagined. No, the original work of girlie creation was actually performed within the shell of a clam, and here's a brief history of the impact of that seminal shot with visible proof of how it improves when clams are substituted by conch.

The shell in the shot (sounds faintly military, that) below was actually bought, not stolen, in Nassau, used on New Providence, on Paradise Island and also Rose Island, and then imported to Scotland from whence it took up residence on the shelf at the rear of a bath in Spain.

Later, it was re-shot on yet more Kodachrome on a beach in Alcudia, Mallorca, and then when the need arose, it was converted into b/w and used to promote my own rôle in a small local show which, in the end, I never did attend as I was stricken low with Delhi Belly from a suspcious meal that I'd paid for in good faith.

Botticelli might well have been thinking of a doing a special Marks & Spencer tv commercial at the time but found himself sidetracked by those terrible hairdressing/cosmetics people who, as is well discussed in these pages, are so corrupting of the female gender.

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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #726 on: February 11, 2012, 09:07:21 am »

I wish I'd gotten to that show, Rob.
And what was served at the reception? Oysters, clams, and nudes?

Eric
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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #727 on: February 11, 2012, 09:34:10 am »

Eric, I have no idea; I was doing my level best, at home, to avoid replicating the looks of the baboon when viewed from the rear.

I suspect that anything that was served there might have contained more of the same ecstasy powder that I'd presumably found earlier. Conch chowder, perhaps? Of one thing I'm fairly certain: any nudes would have been imported.

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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #728 on: February 11, 2012, 04:17:47 pm »

I wish I'd seen that show as well. Just to momentarily side-track this thread even further, I just had a look at a photo of said Venus and wonder if Botticelli ever saw a female nude. The "Venus" appears to be a young man with poorly painted bumps added.
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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #729 on: February 12, 2012, 03:37:37 am »

On a similar theme, see here for an example of phenomenal silliness indulged in by someone with too much spare time.

Jeremy
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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #730 on: February 12, 2012, 05:43:50 am »

On a similar theme, see here for an example of phenomenal silliness indulged in by someone with too much spare time.

Jeremy




I can see that one of the ladies in the background is on her knees and spewing up onto the sofa/into the trunk, or whatever lurks in  the shadows. The retoucher has obviously considered the anti-gravitational properties effect of false tits, too, because they stick out in absolute defiance of Mr Newton. Further, I suspect that the other main problem that is faced here is the matter of face: those old styles belong with corpulent figures - they simply don't go with slim-line bodies.

Perhaps fun to do, but pointless nonetheless. Much like cellpix, come to think of it.

Strange; I haven't done anything with camera or PS for a few days because of the cold and the lack of will to risk pneumonia out by the sea; strange, because instead of withdrawal anxieties this time, I find myself caring ever less about the entire business of photography or, at least, substitute genres... Makes me think again of Riaan's Harry.

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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #731 on: February 16, 2012, 07:24:41 am »

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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #732 on: February 16, 2012, 02:38:20 pm »

Daniel, I love your photographs!

Jeremy
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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #733 on: February 16, 2012, 02:56:17 pm »

Daniel, I love your photographs!

Jeremy
Indeed. They have real pizzazz.

Eric
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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #734 on: February 20, 2012, 03:07:19 am »

my first attempt to stichting..



Snowgum on Mt buller Australia, VIC


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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #735 on: February 20, 2012, 07:01:25 am »

My first attempts at stitching I wouldn't show to anyone..obviously you don't have that problem....
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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #736 on: February 20, 2012, 05:12:31 pm »

This was all so much easier as a cellpix...

Anyway, D700 and 105mm Micro Nikkor instead.

Rob C
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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #737 on: February 20, 2012, 05:25:15 pm »

My first attempts at stitching I wouldn't show to anyone..obviously you don't have that problem....

Can't comment on the first part, but I agree with the second!

Mike.
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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #738 on: February 20, 2012, 06:07:47 pm »

Damn, Rob, this is absolutely fantastic!!!

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Re: Without Prejudice
« Reply #739 on: February 20, 2012, 06:10:07 pm »

Damn, Rob, this is absolutely fantastic!!!
Agreed. And it doesn't even need his favorite model to complete it.
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