Martin Evening's books on Photoshop CS5

[John McDermott]

Martin Evening currently has "Adobe Photoshop CS5 for Photographers: a professional image editor's guide for creative use of Photoshop for Macitosh and PC" available on Amazon and other places. He and Jeff Schewe will be publishing "Adobe Photoshop CS5 for Photographers: the ultimate workshop" in the, hopefully, near future.

How do these books differ? As a minimally skilled intermediate photographer and Photoshop user, which is the best choice for me? Or is the best answer both of them?

[graeme]

John

"Adobe Photoshop CS5 for Photographers: a professional image editor's guide for creative use of Photoshop for Macitosh and PC" is supposed to be aimed at beginner to intermediate level photograpers but there's a lot of very useful info in it. It goes into a significant amount of technical detail too ( nearly fifty pages on colour management ).

I have the book ( and its' CS3 predecessor ) and can highly recommend it.

"Adobe Photoshop CS5 for Photographers: the ultimate workshop" is for more advanced users. It should be very interesting and go well over my head.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Graeme

[jgbowerman]

Martin Evening currently has "Adobe Photoshop CS5 for Photographers: a professional image editor's guide for creative use of Photoshop for Macitosh and PC" available on Amazon and other places. He and Jeff Schewe will be publishing "Adobe Photoshop CS5 for Photographers: the ultimate workshop" in the, hopefully, near future.

How do these books differ? As a minimally skilled intermediate photographer and Photoshop user, which is the best choice for me? Or is the best answer both of them?

Martin Evening writes the best books on Photoshop, IMO. CS5 was a bit of a disappointment for me only because is was a rehashed version of his CS4 book, which is understandable, but I think he could have done a better job. This is unlike Evening's Lightroom 3 book, where he went all the way and re-wrote the book making it a more valuable resource. But still, if you want one book on CS5, Evening is the way to go. Lynda.com is the other invaluable resource in getting the most in terms of fully implementing CS5 as well as LR3. 

[John McDermott]

I didn't articulate my question very well and thus didn't get the answer that I am looking for.

One author: Martin Evening

Two Books about essentially the same subject, Photoshop CS5.

How are they different?

[jgbowerman]

I didn't articulate my question very well and thus didn't get the answer that I am looking for.

One author: Martin Evening

Two Books about essentially the same subject, Photoshop CS5.

How are they different?

I'm going by recollection, so I could be a tad off, but I found the difference between the two books great enough that I returned his more advanced publication. The returned publication, which identifies itself as a book on more advanced techniques, is also more specialized and reflects Martin Evening's niche; studio photography. I'm mostly about landscape. His more general publication is without question the better choice if your familiarity with PS CS4 is limited. For a more advanced users with interest in studio-type photography, his more advanced book might better suit one's needs.

[Schewe]

Two Books about essentially the same subject, Photoshop CS5.

The main book, Photoshop For Photographers covers the tools in Photoshop, Bridge and Camera Raw that photographers find important. The 2nd book coauthored with me is designed to show actual photoshop techniques for producing images and is more advanced since it assumes a degree of familiarity that the original book doesn't assume.

So, the original title, Photoshop For Photographers for the basics, Photoshop For Photographers: Ultimate Workshop for more advanced techniques...and you should note that this upcoming edition (it's expected to be published mid-Oct, Martin and I just finished it a couple of weeks ago) will have a lot more fine art landscape techniques.

We did two new shoots for images for the 2nd book, the English countryside and the American Southwest including Santa Fe, Monument Valley, Antelope Canyon, Zion, Bryce and Arches national parks...in fact, aside from the studio shots for the cover image that Martin and I co-authored (and co-imaged) I'm pretty sure most of the new stuff will be appreciated by landscape shooters. There's a whole chapter on merges to HDR and panos. We also added an entire chapter on automating Photoshop with actions and batch processing...

[John McDermott]

Thank you Jeff; exactly what I was looking for.

[jgbowerman]

We did two new shoots for images for the 2nd book, the English countryside and the American Southwest including Santa Fe, Monument Valley, Antelope Canyon, Zion, Brice and Arches national parks...in fact, aside from the studio shots for the cover image that Martin and I co-authored (and co-imaged) I'm pretty sure most of the new stuff will be appreciated by landscape shooters. There's a whole chapter on merges to HDR and panos. We also added an entire chapter on automating Photoshop with actions and batch processing...

You give me good reason to check it out, thanks Jeff.

[tived]

I think you will find with most technical books, that there will be a lot of similarities between new revisions, with the exception of the new part that has been added.

Though I haven't finished Martin & Jeff's first book, i found it a good reference book, I also have Martin's P4P CS book, and have had no need to buy any of them since, until the Ultimate Workshop came out.
Given they are over AUD$100 here in Australia, it isn't just one you pick off the shelf for a bit of entertainment sunday afternoon. But I will have a peek at it anyway :-)

Henrik   

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Martin Evening writes the best books on Photoshop, IMO. CS5 was a bit of a disappointment for me only because is was a rehashed version of his CS4 book, which is understandable, but I think he could have done a better job. This is unlike Evening's Lightroom 3 book, where he went all the way and re-wrote the book making it a more valuable resource. But still, if you want one book on CS5, Evening is the way to go. Lynda.com is the other invaluable resource in getting the most in terms of fully implementing CS5 as well as LR3. 
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