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DarkPenguin

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« on: May 01, 2010, 03:21:13 pm »

Is it my imagination or is there no lens hood available for the Panasonic 20mm f1.7?
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2010, 04:19:36 pm »

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Is it my imagination or is there no lens hood available for the Panasonic 20mm f1.7?

It does not come with one.  Panasonic does not sell one.  There are a few which fit -- one in particular is recommended (and good looking).  Search the DPR Micro Four-Thirds forum for hundreds of posts.

Flare is rarely (ever?) reported to be a problem (except where a lens hood wouldn't make any difference).

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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2010, 09:09:00 pm »

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It does not come with one.  Panasonic does not sell one.  There are a few which fit -- one in particular is recommended (and good looking).  Search the DPR Micro Four-Thirds forum for hundreds of posts.

Flare is rarely (ever?) reported to be a problem (except where a lens hood wouldn't make any difference).

I like using hoods for protection.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2010, 10:00:26 pm »

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I like using hoods for protection.

I wasn't meaning any discouragement.  Ten bucks will take care of it.

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=46mm+lens...from=&_ipg=

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2010, 05:58:08 am »

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Is it my imagination or is there no lens hood available for the Panasonic 20mm f1.7?


I have the one the 'KirbyKrieger' mentioned and it's excellent.

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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2010, 06:28:31 am »

Create your own lenshood. What about starting with the design of the Pentax SMC 40mm lens adapting it to the 20mm Panasonic Pancake?
http://www.lenshoods.co.uk/hoods/Pentax-SM...mm-f-2.8-DA.php
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2010, 11:00:15 am »

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Create your own lenshood. What about starting with the design of the Pentax SMC 40mm lens adapting it to the 20mm Panasonic Pancake?
http://www.lenshoods.co.uk/hoods/Pentax-SM...mm-f-2.8-DA.php

Without a hot glue gun I'm not sure how one would attach that to the actual lens.  Not much room.

The bigger issue I have is that a hood would attach to the moving part of the lens and transmit any shock to it.  On the other hand the glass part is much easier to poke than I'm happy with...

BTW, this thing is just ridiculous.  If you have a m43 camera and the 20mm focal length is useful to you this thing is amazingly sharp.

Not the fastest focusing thing I've ever seen but perhaps I'm behind on firmware updates.

edit: BTW, is it safe to assume that panasonic uses OIS to figure out landscape vs portrait?  Cause it doesn't work with adapted lenses nor this non OIS lens.  Getting tired of rotating images in LR.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2010, 11:02:29 am by DarkPenguin »
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2010, 11:11:36 am »

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Is it my imagination or is there no lens hood available for the Panasonic 20mm f1.7?

Care to comment how you like the camera and lenses? I am considering a 4/3 system and am eagerly collecting opinions. Thanks.
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2010, 12:01:28 pm »

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Without a hot glue gun I'm not sure how one would attach that to the actual lens.  Not much room.

It shouldn't be too difficult to attach a selfmade neoprene hood using an old 46mm filter and some velcro tape.
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2010, 09:04:39 pm »

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Care to comment how you like the camera and lenses? I am considering a 4/3 system and am eagerly collecting opinions. Thanks.

It is nice.  At least if you are used to using APS-c cameras.  The viewfinder (G1) is great.  The resolution is great.  The lenses are surprisingly good.  (Not so much the 45-200 but it is okay.)  There are not as many lens options as one would like.  Particularly in the realm of fast m43 lenses.  You can certainly go with older manual focus lenses to get some bright glass.

While focus is accurate it isn't very fast.  I wouldn't try to track anything with it.

Even if I had a healthy spine I would still love the m43 stuff.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2010, 09:07:02 pm »

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It shouldn't be too difficult to attach a selfmade neoprene hood using an old 46mm filter and some velcro tape.

It'll end in tears.  Trust me.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2010, 10:42:22 pm »

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Without a hot glue gun I'm not sure how one would attach that to the actual lens.  Not much room.

The bigger issue I have is that a hood would attach to the moving part of the lens and transmit any shock to it.  On the other hand the glass part is much easier to poke than I'm happy with...

BTW, this thing is just ridiculous.  If you have a m43 camera and the 20mm focal length is useful to you this thing is amazingly sharp.

edit: BTW, is it safe to assume that panasonic uses OIS to figure out landscape vs portrait?  Cause it doesn't work with adapted lenses nor this non OIS lens.  Getting tired of rotating images in LR.

Hood harming lens:
I read the DPR MFT forum every day.  It is very active.  No one has mentioned (that I know of) any harm done to the lens due to the hood.

Lens quality:
It became what might be called a "cult favorite" overnight.  A lot of experienced photographers have sung its praises.

Orientation information:
You are correct.  Same with the also excellent 7-14 (very much worth a try if you get a chance).  A silly design flaw.

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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2010, 01:57:14 am »

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It'll end in tears.  Trust me.

Come on, just a bit of ellbow grease!  
Otherwise get a 46mm rubber sunshade from Hama or Rowi and cut it for your needs if necessary.
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2010, 02:37:35 pm »

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I like using hoods for protection.


Is this the place to discuss those matters, Mr P?

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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2010, 08:10:50 pm »

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Is this the place to discuss those matters, Mr P?

Rob C

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Edit: It occurs to me that I didn't type it as a joke this time.  Bah!
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2010, 01:02:19 am »

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Hood harming lens:
I read the DPR MFT forum every day.  It is very active.  No one has mentioned (that I know of) any harm done to the lens due to the hood.

Lens quality:
It became what might be called a "cult favorite" overnight.  A lot of experienced photographers have sung its praises.

Orientation information:
You are correct.  Same with the also excellent 7-14 (very much worth a try if you get a chance).  A silly design flaw.

I saw it mentioned in a thread there.  But it was just one person mentioning it so I don't know if it is a real concern.

I'm just popping the lens cap back on a lot.  It would help if I didn't swing the camera around as much as I do.
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2010, 04:01:44 am »

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I saw it mentioned in a thread there.  But it was just one person mentioning it so I don't know if it is a real concern.

I'm just popping the lens cap back on a lot.  It would help if I didn't swing the camera around as much as I do.



Which brings me back to your matter of self-harm and the suitability of the site to the discussion. Try one of those exciting CK supports - all the hippest folks show them.

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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2010, 07:21:03 am »

I bought a GF1, 20mm F1.7, 14-45mm, and 7-14mm shortly after they came out. I've found it to be a great portable camera system. The 20mm F1.7 is great for taking social shots. The greater depth of field from the smaller sensor makes F1.7 a lot easier to use than it would be on a full-frame camera. The autofocus is accurate, and pretty fast. The face detection is a very useful feature - just compose the shot and focus, regardless of where the face is in the shot. With my 5D II I have to choose the right focus point and position it over the face, which slows things down.

On the other hand, the image quality isn't in the same league as a full-frame DSLR (you can't beat physics), and the autofocus system is pretty useless for tracking moving targets. This limits the camera's usefulness for photographing young children, since they seldom stay still for long.
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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2010, 07:35:06 am »

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It'll end in tears.  Trust me.


      Sounds like your hands on "skillset" is about like mine      

I just got a Panasonic GF1 with the 14-45 and am really liking it. Using Aperture as my RAW converter, as a very recent Mac convert I'm still stumbling around in the software but having lots of fun!

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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2010, 06:39:37 pm »

Please post some pics. Especially buildings and street people (if you do'em)
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     Sounds like your hands on "skillset" is about like mine      

I just got a Panasonic GF1 with the 14-45 and am really liking it. Using Aperture as my RAW converter, as a very recent Mac convert I'm still stumbling around in the software but having lots of fun!
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