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Bobtrips

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« on: February 12, 2004, 11:43:08 am »

But it's only an external hard drive, not a portable hard drive (PHD, capable of reading memory cards).

I don't think hard drive failure is a common occurrence with PHDs.  If your photos are really valuable, especially if you're shooting for money, then a couple of $200 PHDs gives you redundant backup in the field.
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2004, 03:13:54 pm »

Has anyone done recent reviews of what would qualify as PHD's? Particularly, I am looking for the features of transfer via CF slot and an LCD as well as TV/video output. Didn't see anything on this site but I can look again...

I did see some on a web retailer but I was curious to know if anyone had experience with any of these and the pros and cons of each.

Anyone?
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2004, 12:17:39 am »

ive been using a Vosonic XS drive

see it here:
http://www.xs-drive.com/xsdrive2/
http://www.xs-drive.com/pics/xsdrive2vp2060.gif

Its SWEET! reads CF, SMC, smart media...
supports usb 2.0

im VERY happy with it. you can find it on ebay for about 89.00 without hard drive or 199.00 with 20gb drive. I installed my own 12gb drive in it and serves as my digital wallet as well as emergency system backup/dump drive.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2004, 10:21:14 pm »

I've looked at a couple of sub-notebooks and have never been that happy with what I saw.  What kind did you end up getting?  And what size, weight is it?

Thanks,
Bryan
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2004, 06:20:34 pm »

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Has anyone done recent reviews of what would qualify as PHD's? Particularly, I am looking for the features of transfer via CF slot and an LCD as well as TV/video output. Didn't see anything on this site but I can look again...

I did see some on a web retailer but I was curious to know if anyone had experience with any of these and the pros and cons of each.

Anyone?
I don't know of many reviews of these things. It would be nice if there were.

Check out My Digital Discount. They have a good selection of them at reasonable prices.

I have the Xs-Drive II and it's very nice and simple to use. Just plug-in the card turn it on and press copy. It beeps when done. Battery life is resonable too. I made 12 transfers of 240mb each and it only took 3/4 of the battery. I also like the fact I can upgrade the HD if I ever need more than 30GB. It also acts as a standard external HD that can connect to any WinXP/Win2000/Mac computer without installing drivers.

My only complaint is it's size. It's not as compact as an iPod would be so it's akward to carry around in a pocket. I'm either going to have to make a belt clip for it, wear cargo pants, or just carry it around in a camera bag. I'd rather have a belt clip, but I can't sew worth crap.

If you want one with a color LCD then the FlashTrax, V-MP3H Portable Storage, Delkin eFilm™ PicturePAD, or the soon to be released in America Epson drives would be what you need. Unfortunatly all of those are much more expensive than models without a color LCD.

I've heard really good things about any of the Xs-Drives, the Tripper, FlashTrax, and the Image Tank G2. Everyone who's said the have one has been very pleased with them.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2004, 01:17:14 pm »

Has anybody used one of these storage solutions at high altitude?

I am going to Nepal next month and am investigating what would be required to use my 10D. I will be reaching 5500m altitude and will be away from power for about 2 weeks at a time. I can buy the extra batteries, but if the HDD is likely to fail on me then I'll stick to film.

Any experiences?

Thanks, Julian
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2004, 09:42:09 am »

Thought some of you digital guys might be interested in this, what with concerns about your drives failing in the field.

http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20040213/index.html

Jason
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2004, 02:25:45 pm »

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But it's only an external hard drive, not a portable hard drive (PHD, capable of reading memory cards).
My bad, never mind then  :)

That reminds me, I'm almost out of film . . .

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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2004, 08:04:51 pm »

These are not hammer proof, but I have recently been using LeCie Pocket drives, they seem very durable (within reason) and cheap enough to sell to the client.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2004, 12:01:39 pm »

Danno - can't give you specific info about PHDs with LCD viewing screens.  When I checked the price I decided to add a bit more money to the pot and bought a sub-notebook so that I would have editing and CD burning ability as well.

You might want to do some reading on DPReview - the Storage and Media forum.  There are lots of posts about different devices there.
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2004, 03:06:05 am »

It should be noted that all hard drives, whether desktop or laptop versions, use air bearings and have a high failure rate at high altitude (above ~9000 ft).

I live at 13000 ft and have personally had 2 harddrives crash irrepairably in the last 4 months, and know others who have had 9 out of 15 laptop harddrives crash.

Just thought I'd throw that in...it's why I don't use a digital wallet or microdrive for my pics.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2004, 08:11:44 pm »

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Has anyone done recent reviews of what would qualify as PHD's? Particularly, I am looking for the features of transfer via CF slot and an LCD as well as TV/video output. Didn't see anything on this site but I can look again...

I did see some on a web retailer but I was curious to know if anyone had experience with any of these and the pros and cons of each.

I use a variety of portable (external) hard disks and can give you a little information. First, I don't really make a true distinction between portable and external. Most of the external hard disks do not have stand-alone capability, but need to be connected to a computer to serve in the capacity of hard drive. This includes what most consider truly portable hard disks such as the Kangaru, etc. A few of the newer models (some Maxtor, etc.) have card slots and can function to capture data, if not supply data without an attached computer.

The ones which are self contained and battery operated (Digital Wallet, FlashTrax, ImageBank, etc.) come in a variety of flavors. Personally, I like the FlashTrax unit myself. I have an old and now defunct Digital Wallet which still works fine and a FlashTrax currently. FlashTrax is available in capacities to 80 gigabytes.

The primary weakness of these units other than altitude "sickness" which has been discussed in an earlier thread, is that they are battery hogs. No matter which you end up with, be sure to purchase additional battery packs so you can charge one while using another. Few will transfer more than about 2.5 gigabytes on a fresh charge - most less under real operation circumstances. They are better in warm weather and worse in cold weather.

As far as reliability, they are all pretty stable. Like any hard drive they are subject to shock. Don't drop it and if a protective and padded case is available, buy it.

Best regards,

Lin
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2004, 01:39:32 am »

A word of warning here to the XS Drive II. I spent my last day off fighting with this PHD after I had fitted my spare 60GB hdd. When I transfered anything, -and I tried all the storage media (SD, Sonystick, Microdrive, CFII),- the transferred data looked like goobledegook (?) in Explorer when hooked up via USB2.0 port or direct, and the data was unusable.

At first I thought it was the storage media, or the hub, or the data, then the Fat32 format, then the HP laptop, then the Toshiba Laptop etc etc.

The findings are as follows:

If your are taking a hdd from a laptop, you MUST remove the hibernation partition placed after the boot sector. This is placed there automatically when you use the restore CD's supplied with most laptops or when is pre-installed. This PHD recognises only the first patition, regardless of its function, and so if the 1st partition is 200MB, then it will only transfer that much data, even though you have another approx. 59.8GB left...

This PHD will not accept hdd's greater than 30G, anything larger must be partitioned to less than this. There is nothing in the documentation which refers to this, and it was a last act of desperation after changing this hdd in & out of my laptops countless times... (Here is plug for Toshiba) fortunately the hdd on the Portege models are very easy to remove (2 screws, one cover and pull it free).

This whole thing is problematic if you do not have access to a laptop and/ or you are not comfortable with removing HDD's etc (the HP Xe3 you have to pull various covers off, remove the keyboard etc). Partition Magic 8.0 does not support partitioning over USB2.0 either via a hub or direct connection. There may be another partitioning software package available that allows this, please enlighten us if there is.

For such a small item, there are a large number of problems which could be avoided if documented correctly, I will not list all here, mail me if you have any questions.

Now that it is working, it is practical and until now fulfills my requirements.

For all you electrical engineers out there, PLEASE design an adaptor that senses device voltage and amps automatically (output). I have a number of devices, and I HATE  all the adaptors I have to carry around. I am sure I am not the only one who has this problem.
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2004, 05:16:56 pm »

this company makes computer stuff for extreme conditions-they claim! check out www.stealth.ca
Good luck!
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