Black H series camera

[nad54]

For users of the H system the colour of the camera is a matter of debate. But the Fuji version appears to be black.

Does anyone know why the Hasselblad version is grey?

[vduault]

Perhaps is it a stupid think but I just wonder if the price between these two brands is the same...I would'nt be surprised by some marketing...

[Khun_K]

Perhaps is it a stupid think but I just wonder if the price between these two brands is the same...I would'nt be surprised by some marketing...

The Fuji version indeed looks a bit more classic, with its black and dark grey two-tone color but it can be just one confusing camera, on its left hand side it says Hasselblad, on the AE prism, it says GX 645AF, on its right hand side it says "Fujifilm??", and of course the H on the battery grip.  Aside from the camera looks overall nice, the name badges just like  joke.  But it works smoothly, in fact the one I use has less mirror slap than on my H3.  I am almost tempted to find those small parts to replace those wiered name plate on the Fuji version to make it a full Hasselblad version, no offence to Fuji, but the Fuji veriosn is really really funny to look at.

Regards, K

[BJL]

Has the Fujifilm branded version evolved beyond the original H1 clone? Is is now for example an "H2F", targeted at the reportedly strong Japanese 645 film using community?

[TMARK]

Has the Fujifilm branded version evolved beyond the original H1 clone? Is is now for example an "H2F", targeted at the reportedly strong Japanese 645 film using community?

I don't think it is a clone of the Blad, I think it has different color and a few different logos.  Its more like a sister, but in a little black dress instead of a beige pant suit.

I was told, in seriousness, that the Blad was beige so it wouldn't absorb heat.  I laughed at that one, because I thought he was joking.  He wasn't.  The guy still hates me.

[gdwhalen]

I don't think it is a clone of the Blad, I think it has different color and a few different logos.  Its more like a sister, but in a little black dress instead of a beige pant suit.

I was told, in seriousness, that the Blad was beige so it wouldn't absorb heat.  I laughed at that one, because I thought he was joking.  He wasn't.  The guy still hates me.

On a hot sunny or even just a sunny day, go touch a black car, a silver car and a white car and then get back to him.  I think you will understand then.

[gdwhalen]

Because that's how cameras are used, in a parking lot for 10 hours in the hot sun and never moving.

Wow, you are a deep thinker.  That is one of the most ridiculous comebacks in a forum of this quality I have seen in awhile.  The point is, for you in particular, is that electronics can be fragile and heat is an enemy.  If their engineer or designer told someone that is why they did not make it black - that is not difficult for me to understand.  The car reference was simply a "hands on" way to see how that works.  Even in hot sun a white car will remain cool.  Black will get very hot and silver mildly so.  It was not meant to express that people leave their cameras in a parking lot on a hot day.  But I learned about you and that may be worthwhile down the road.

[TMARK]

On a hot sunny or even just a sunny day, go touch a black car, a silver car and a white car and then get back to him.  I think you will understand then.

Oh yeah, when I was a PJ in Liberia, Nigeria, Ivory Coast and Morrocco, my BLACK METAL Nikon F4s toasted all my film and were too hot to touch.  Just like a car.  Yeah, when I've shot in the Mojave desert and in the Owens River valley, I've had to rent the Blad because it isn't black.  Because you know, the heat.

Give yourself a break.

[Graham Mitchell]

I probably shouldn't give away my grandma's secret family recipe for crispy grilled chicken, but I will say that it involves leaving a large black camera out in the sun for an hour...

[gdwhalen]

I probably shouldn't give away my grandma's secret family recipe for crispy grilled chicken, but I will say that it involves leaving a large black camera out in the sun for an hour...

Hey, I was just giving an explanation for that guys statement.  But whatever makes you feel good about yourself!

[BlasR]

I probably shouldn't give away my grandma's secret family recipe for crispy grilled chicken, but I will say that it involves leaving a large black camera out in the sun for an hour...

[ced]

Why do you guys always get so nervous over nonsense or someone's sense of humour?  Ever heard of taking the mickey?

[ThierryH]

On a hot sunny or even just a sunny day, go touch a black car, a silver car and a white car and then get back to him.  I think you will understand then.

It is simply called the "albedo", a well-known and specific form of the reflectivity: dark colours do reflect less light, therefore absorb more, the darker the more and with black having the maximum absorption. Bright colours do in the contrary reflect more light, with white reflecting the maximum. This is why objects with dark colours are becoming more hot when under light.

One can try this out also with wearing a black t-shirt instead of a white during a hot sunny day: the difference is quite remarkable.

Best regards,
Thierry

[TMARK]

It is simply called the "albedo", a well-known and specific form of the reflectivity: dark colours do reflect less light, therefore absorb more, the darker the more and with black having the maximum absorption. Bright colours do in the contrary reflect more light, with white reflecting the maximum. This is why objects with dark colours are becoming more hot when under light.

One can try this out also with wearing a black t-shirt instead of a white during a hot sunny day: the difference is quite remarkable.

Best regards,
Thierry

Absolutely TH. But my sneaking suspicion is that the blad is beige solely to differentiate it from the Fuji. I'm not saying it's bad, or it's a negative against blad, but their camera should be black.

[ThierryH]

Absolutely TH. But my sneaking suspicion is that the blad is beige solely to differentiate it from the Fuji. I'm not saying it's bad, or it's a negative against blad, but their camera should be black.

That's my suspicion too, since when I asked at Sinar to make the Hy6 completely black, the reason they did come up with for not doing it was NOT "the camera becomes hotter"!



Best regards,
Thierry

[SeanBK]

In summer of 2004 I was in Paris. I had my Hasselblad & met someone who had Black Fuji. They both looked exactly the same, he offered to exchange mine for his, but I declined, percived problems with warranty... Personally I thought Black looked so much better than mine (Gray Hasselblad H) when comparing them side by side.

[Steve Hendrix]

Considering that if the internal temperature changes by 1 degree it results in a reduction of x amount of noise in the file, I'm not sure I'm ready to call bullshit. Although at the time it was designed and created, I don't know that that was part of the engineering mindset. And there are certainly other color choices for Hasselblad cameras, red, green, yellow, etc.

Then again I haven't seen anyone going Apple and producing the ultimate low noise, all white camera.


Steve Hendrix

[BJL]

Then again I haven't seen anyone going Apple and producing the ultimate low noise, all white camera.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/21/white-p...-for-pre-order/
Now you have!:

I do agree we though that sensors are far more heat sensitive than film, so a paler color scheme could have a practical advantage. The very best low noise results are got from these big CCD's in special scientific cameras with sensor cooling. (Some Canon and Nikon lenses are pale for similar heat-related reasons: minimizing thermal expansion of exotic glass elements.)

[Steve Hendrix]

[asf]

I thought the H series color was chosen to coordinate with the Enterprise from Next Generation ...