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« on: October 15, 2009, 11:26:05 am »

Hello Folkes


I have a new Epson 3800 which has been profiled with Ilford Galerie Smooth pearl with an eye-one extreme.
I did notice that the printouts were a bit warmer initially but recently I have been trying to print front of house shots for theatres and I find that the skin tones are very red/yellow and have almost orange solarization bands around the shadow highlight transitions.  As usual time is tight and I don't have much of it to be trying out different papers etc but I was wondering if this sounds familiar to anyone and maybe find out any solution?

PS, Worklflow: Printing from Photoshop CS3... uncheck "Match print colours"... then "perceptual" "black point compensation" profile correct etc.  Then in Epson dialogue ... disable colour settings etc.

Hope someone can help.

Ros

Oh hang on I'll post an image here you go.

PPS.  All looks fine on screen at all stages inc. gamut warning, proof colours and even thumbnails in printer dialogue .
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2009, 11:34:28 am »

PPPS this is the image I'm trying to print from

Ros
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2009, 11:53:25 am »

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PPPS this is the image I'm trying to print from

Ros

too many possibilities here, but how does "Soft proofing" in CS3 compare to the final print? Zoom in on the image and look for defects.
I have a 3800, used that paper, and print mainly from Lightroom.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2009, 11:55:52 am »

Make sure you select "Photoshop Manages Color" in the CS3 print with preview window. Select "Document" also, not "Proof" (The source image will have something like AdobeRGB or sRGB next to it). Also, the "Match Print Colors" only relates to the image as it appears in the little preview window. If by disabling Epson "Printer Color Management" toggle, you mean selecting "Off/ No Color Adjustment", that is correct. In the Epson "Print Settings" toggle, select "Color", "Media Type", "Advanced Settings"

I use "Relative" with BPC checked, but if your profile maker suggests perceptual, try that first. BPC has no effect on the Perceptual intent.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2009, 11:58:45 am »

All looks ok in the soft proof with the printer profile set as the default.  Yes the tonal grads become a bit more jumpy but there are no colour changes or flat areas of colour with no detail as is happening in the print.
Yes there are probably too many variables .. I'm getting my supplier to look at it next week.


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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2009, 12:02:41 pm »

Could be a bad profile also. Even ones I make myself have a glich rate of something like 1 out of 100 or something like that. And it usually manifests itself in the form of weird banding in tonal transitions.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2009, 12:13:05 pm »

Thanks all .. tried "Relative Colormetric" to no avail.

Re profiles .. I have tried 2 different Eye ones, one Colormunki and the downloaded profile from Ilford... all also to no avail.
(Interestingly the eye ones and the Ilford profile have little difference between them .. the Colormunki has the most variation.

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2009, 12:17:17 pm »

Do you print from a Mac? It looks like the well known "salmon issue". The image you posted is a bit too small to be sure.

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2009, 12:18:50 pm »

Salmon issue?      .. will look up!

Ros

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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 12:25:51 pm »

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Salmon issue?      .. will look up!

Ros
If I remember correctly you can try to:
• Make sure that your Epson printer is the default printer

or

• Use the ColorySync Utility to set the default printer for your 3800 to profile to Generic RGB

PS: you should find a thread with salmon issue and the Epson 4000. It's quite old…
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2009, 12:35:00 pm »

Just changed profile to generic rgb as described in thread and restarted computer... am printing at present and will tell you how it goes in about 3 mins

R

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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2009, 12:36:05 pm »

HORAY!!!!

Best result from LL forums in a long time! Thanks all very much.


Ros

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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2009, 12:39:34 pm »

You're welcome Ros. Glad to see that your problem could be solved rapidly!
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