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Mike W

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« on: October 13, 2009, 06:55:55 pm »

Hi everyone.

Im looking into buying either the Canon 5D mark II or a 7D.
I'm looking into the 7D because of it's native 24fps full HD in contrast to the 5D's 30fps.

I have some experience with shooting video and editing in final cut pro.

Since the 7D doesn't record sound "on board", one needs a sound mixer.
Does anyone have experience with any of these? I've seen and operated one back in school, but it was professional and expensive.
I'm looking for a mixer that costs a maximum of 400 dollars.

Any suggestions?
 

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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 08:25:16 pm »

Hi Mike,

I would suggest posting this question on Cinema5D if you haven't done so already as it's a far more active forum for DSLR video shooters.

Cheers,

Derryck.

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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2009, 01:30:13 am »

Quote from: Mike W
Hi everyone.

Im looking into buying either the Canon 5D mark II or a 7D.
I'm looking into the 7D because of it's native 24fps full HD in contrast to the 5D's 30fps.

I have some experience with shooting video and editing in final cut pro.

Since the 7D doesn't record sound "on board", one needs a sound mixer.
Does anyone have experience with any of these? I've seen and operated one back in school, but it was professional and expensive.
I'm looking for a mixer that costs a maximum of 400 dollars.

Any suggestions?

The 7d does record sound onboard

it has an internal mic (rubbish)

and a small jack pug to put you own mic in

the sound level is stuck on auto though !

Thats why people want seperate sound and for better 'resolution' and control that a proper sound recorder brings

The mic input does not provide 'pantom power' which some mics need

Companies like beachtek make a preamp that can disable the auto gain

also there is no way to monitor what you are recording

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IMO it is useful to collect ambient but care or another solution is required for interviews

S
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2009, 02:29:44 pm »

Thanks guys,

I got in a conversation with a employee at a local Apple store who shoots video on a 7D too.
He suggested a couple of devices which don't cost all too much.
I'm gonna look into it, and post my findings in this thread.

regards,

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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2009, 12:10:02 am »

You don't need a mixer at all.  I'd suggest looking into a Zoom H4n (which a lot of other 5D/7D users are running).  It's a standalone unit and uses SD cards -- you can then use a standard card reader to copy the audio files to your machine when it's editing time.  You'll have to sync up audio + video when you load it all up in FCP (which is not hard if you have someone clap or setup a clap board or some such).  There is also software that helps do this for you (I forget the name) .. but I've never used it as I've never had a hard time lining up the audio by hand.  There are a couple of tips you'll want to follow if you go this route with a Zoom -- but nothing serious and it's easier to worry about that bit once you decide

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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 10:53:49 pm »

Quote from: Mike W
Thanks guys,

I got in a conversation with a employee at a local Apple store who shoots video on a 7D too.
He suggested a couple of devices which don't cost all too much.
I'm gonna look into it, and post my findings in this thread.

regards,


What devices did the Apple Store clerk suggest?
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Mike W

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2009, 09:24:45 am »

Hi Everyone,

Zakiman, You PM'ed me and I replied.

For all others, I'll post the information and some links:

The clerk in the Apple store suggested Edirol or M-audio equipment.
The store carries these products, and the clerk had some-hands on experience with the devices coupled to the 7D.

Links on Amazon: (price isn't too bad)

http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-MicroTrack-P...087&sr=8-28
http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09-WAVE-Rec...4121&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09HR-High-R...4154&sr=1-1

I'm not sure what I'll buy, myself.

Hope this info helps others too.

PS: interesting video on the subject, and gear suggestions:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/canon-e...maker-wannabes/
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2009, 01:43:01 pm »

None of these 'couple' to the 5D2. You record the audio separately and ad in post to the video.
I have the Edirol-R-09 and it is excellent. You can record uncompressed or as MP3. The internal MICs are OK but I recommend an external MIC to avoid handling noises being recorded.





Quote from: Mike W
Hi Everyone,

Zakiman, You PM'ed me and I replied.

For all others, I'll post the information and some links:

The clerk in the Apple store suggested Edirol or M-audio equipment.
The store carries these products, and the clerk had some-hands on experience with the devices coupled to the 7D.

Links on Amazon: (price isn't too bad)

http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-MicroTrack-P...087&sr=8-28
http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09-WAVE-Rec...4121&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/Edirol-R-09HR-High-R...4154&sr=1-1

I'm not sure what I'll buy, myself.

Hope this info helps others too.

PS: interesting video on the subject, and gear suggestions:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/canon-e...maker-wannabes/
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