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Jonathan Wienke

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« on: April 23, 2005, 05:14:59 pm »

Digital zoom under any circumstances is pointless, as is the "conventional whizdumb" you mention. The only "advantage" to using digital zoom at lower resolutions is that the downsampling involved in decreasing the resolution disguises the shortcomings of digital zoom by making unzoomed photos look just as crappy as digitally zoomed ones. Shoot RAW.
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2005, 01:43:34 pm »

The possible point for using digital zoom in, say, 1200x1600 mode instead of the full 2592x1944 of the sensor is in the situation where the digital zoom is cropping to at most 1200x1600 of the sensor's pixels anyway. Then outputting at 1200x1600 simply avoids useless low quality upsampling of that lower resolution crop, whic takes up extra card space while adding no information. Avoding that in-camera upsampling (a) saves camera storage space and possibly card writing time, and ( leaves you with a better (less processed) starting point for any higher quality upsampling that you might want to do on the computer.

P. S. On the other hand, it seems to me that in general, when you need to get down to a given file size (say 500KB, maybe to fit the limits of emailing or web site hosting), it should be better to do this by greater JPEG compression than by downsampling to a lower pixel count followed by using less JPEG compression, still with the same target file size. E.g. 8x compression versus halving pixel count and then 4x compression.

My thinking is that both methods are discarding the same amount of data to hit that 500KB target, but JPEG compression is designed to make far smarter choices as to which data to keep and which to discard than crude downsampling.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2005, 08:37:40 am »

If one is forced to make use of ‘digital’ zoom, having run out of ‘optical’ zoom, resulting in a loss of quality and sharpness, WHY would it often be recommended that one then, only use Digital zoom with LOWER resolutions i.e. 1600x1200 and not 2592x1944 pixels? If this is so, by how much does one drop the resolution?  I would have thought it would be better to use a higher resolution because one is already compromising so much…
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2005, 04:47:45 am »

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If one is forced to make use of ‘digital’ zoom, having run out of ‘optical’ zoom
Why would you ever be "forced" to use digital zoom (unless somene is holding a gun to your head)?
Jonathan is correct that digital zoom is absolutely pointless unless you don't own a computer and even the most primitive image processing software.  Digital zoom is in fact merely cropping the image and enlarging it to give you a fake telephoto effect.  You can do the same thing by cropping in Photoshop, but with better (but not really good) results because you have choices of upsampling algorithms to give you more pixels without obvious quantization (stair step effect).  If you find yourself often in the position of needing to do this, you need longer lenses.
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2005, 01:51:06 pm »

thanks a lot for the detailed explanation
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