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narikin

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Phase C1 Tethered to Vista 64?
« on: April 18, 2009, 12:12:42 pm »

Has anyone out there successfully tethering a Phase back to Vista 64? I cant seem to find a driver for it to be recognised...

I cant believe that Phase don't support the premium Windows 64bit OS now that Adobe do with native 64bit code, plus all the huge memory benefits it has.
surely most pro based windows users would choose 64 over 32 nowadays, so Phase must support that, no?


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Phase C1 Tethered to Vista 64?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2009, 12:55:09 pm »

Quote from: narikin
Has anyone out there successfully tethering a Phase back to Vista 64? I cant seem to find a driver for it to be recognised...

I cant believe that Phase don't support the premium Windows 64bit OS now that Adobe do with native 64bit code, plus all the huge memory benefits it has.
surely most pro based windows users would choose 64 over 32 nowadays, so Phase must support that, no?

Phase does not support tethering in 64 bit Windows.

You're right that the switch within Windows towards 64 bit is undeniable. However, the more relevant part of the equation is that more pro based users choose Mac over PC and most PC users are in the enthusiast segment who don't tether much. Obviously "most" means there are some exceptions, and I agree Phase SHOULD support 64 bit Windows drivers and it's very likely they will at some point. I am not defending the lack of such drivers, just explaining it.

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2009, 01:46:57 pm »

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Phase does not support tethering in 64 bit Windows.

You're right that the switch within Windows towards 64 bit is undeniable. However, the more relevant part of the equation is that more pro based users choose Mac over PC and most PC users are in the enthusiast segment who don't tether much. Obviously "most" means there are some exceptions, and I agree Phase SHOULD support 64 bit Windows drivers and it's very likely they will at some point. I am not defending the lack of such drivers, just explaining it.
well thanks for a clear answer at least Doug.

Phase lets themselves badly down here - As Adobe (an Apple based company if ever there was one) has acknowledged - Vista 64 is a class leading platform, with a true 64 bit operating environment. Photoshop CS4 on Vista 64 is simply the platform of choice for anyone dealing with heavy giant image files - (64Gb+ of RAM for Photoshop if you want that) native 64bit code for PS and Lightroom. I could go on.  If Adobe see the light, then shouldn't Phase? Its just a driver after all, Capture One works fine otherwise...

Please pass these requests on to Phase in your professional capacity, thanks.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2009, 10:03:37 pm »

I'll second that.  32-bit doesn't make sense for huge files, particularly when there's an otherwise mature alternative in 64-bit.

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well thanks for a clear answer at least Doug.

Phase lets themselves badly down here - As Adobe (an Apple based company if ever there was one) has acknowledged - Vista 64 is a class leading platform, with a true 64 bit operating environment. Photoshop CS4 on Vista 64 is simply the platform of choice for anyone dealing with heavy giant image files - (64Gb+ of RAM for Photoshop if you want that) native 64bit code for PS and Lightroom. I could go on.  If Adobe see the light, then shouldn't Phase? Its just a driver after all, Capture One works fine otherwise...

Please pass these requests on to Phase in your professional capacity, thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 11:05:18 am »

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Phase does not support tethering in 64 bit Windows.
However, the more relevant part of the equation is that more pro based users choose Mac over PC and most PC users are in the enthusiast segment who don't tether much. Obviously "most" means there are some exceptions, and I agree Phase SHOULD support 64 bit Windows drivers and it's very likely they will at some point. I am not defending the lack of such drivers, just explaining it.

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That's not an explanation worthy of a company like Phase One.  After all, how hard is it to write a driver?  I'm on Vista 64bits and have no intention of buying a Mac.

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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2009, 01:21:38 pm »

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That's not an explanation worthy of a company like Phase One.  After all, how hard is it to write a driver?  I'm on Vista 64bits and have no intention of buying a Mac.

Quentin

You can spend your life waiting for digital capture.   Lenses, software, drivers, they will always change, always be upgraded always be waiting for you or someone to beta test them in the real world.

Life's too short for that stuff.  

If you want to thether you Phase or Hasselblad or Leaf, buy an apple box.  I-macs are cheap, powerbooks realtively cheap and once again life is too short to spend all this time hooking stuff up and waiting for that elusive update.

If you want to tether with a Canon and not go through a half dozen workarounds on a mac just buy a pc box, they're cheaper than 22 hours of learning how to turn you apple into a pc and pc's with vista are pretty stupid easy.

The manufacturers play the democracy card.  They look at their broadest market and concentrate on it.  They all do it, the big ones like Adobe and Apple, the small ones like Phase and Leaf.   They test this stuff the best they can and then wait for the reviews to see what does and doesn't work.

The strange thing about photography is digital capture has matured to a point where one camera is not that amazingly different than the other.  Sure for specialty use some cameras are better than others but the most detailed, fastest, newest, most expensive camera in the world will not make a crappy photo look good, and will not make a good photograph look bad.

I've pretty much owned them all, Canon, Nikon, Leica, Phase, Leaf and Kodak and they all are wanting in some aspects all really great in others, so choose your poison and stick with it.

There is no holy grail, no single camera that does everything well.  

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2009, 03:31:31 pm »

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That's not an explanation worthy of a company like Phase One.  After all, how hard is it to write a driver?  I'm on Vista 64bits and have no intention of buying a Mac.

These are really small companies. We once had an informal platform survey on the Leica forum, among M8 users, and 80%+ were on the Mac. I presume that the situation is similar here. Furthermore, whereas all Mac people tend to be on the same O/S more or less (Tiger or Leopard will be way over 90% at this point), Windows is quite fragmented, with some on XP, some on Vista and some even on Windows 7, some on 32 and some on 64. Of these, 7 people are on Vista 64, and 4 of those didn't pay for their Windows license  So it might take a while. Why don't you keep one Windows machine and one Mac? You are limiting yourself by being platform religious.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2009, 07:27:49 pm »

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well thanks for a clear answer at least Doug.

Phase lets themselves badly down here - As Adobe (an Apple based company if ever there was one) has acknowledged - Vista 64 is a class leading platform, with a true 64 bit operating environment.

Adobe can't even get flashplayer to run on 64 bit vista, which really surprised me.
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