Topic: Hasselblad adobe support (Read 6296 times)

kaimaui · « **on:** March 18, 2009, 11:17:21 pm »

Is there a legal reason why there is no support for Hasselblad raw files by adobe.
I have been using RPP raw software the last few days with great results on my 3ff files.
So If an individual can write a software which produces great results adobe should be able to do it.

So is it legal ? political? Or something else.

Jozef Zajaz · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2009, 09:51:16 am »

Quote from: kaimaui

Is there a legal reason why there is no support for Hasselblad raw files by adobe.
I have been using RPP raw software the last few days with great results on my 3ff files.
So If an individual can write a software which produces great results adobe should be able to do it.

So is it legal ? political? Or something else.

I think it is because Hasselblad won't provide the necessary info to Adobe

Cfranson · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2009, 09:56:10 am »

Quote from: kaimaui

Is there a legal reason why there is no support for Hasselblad raw files by adobe.
I have been using RPP raw software the last few days with great results on my 3ff files.
So If an individual can write a software which produces great results adobe should be able to do it.

So is it legal ? political? Or something else.

Phocus will happily export DNGs for you to process in Adobe Camera Raw.

hubell · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2009, 10:38:23 am »

Quote from: kaimaui

Is there a legal reason why there is no support for Hasselblad raw files by adobe.
I have been using RPP raw software the last few days with great results on my 3ff files.
So If an individual can write a software which produces great results adobe should be able to do it.

So is it legal ? political? Or something else.

I tried getting an answer on this last Fall from the guy from Adobe who posts all the time on LL about ACR and LR, but he ignored my question. (It lead to a humorous exchange with Jeff Schewe, but that's another matter.)
BTW, RPP is not alone. Raw Developer and Aperture can read Hasselblad raws. Maybe Adobe has the same team working on this that worked on the focus blending in CS4.

David Grover / Capture One · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2009, 10:59:44 am »

I can't go into many details on this forum but I can say this.

There is no desire on either side to NOT have 3F files working in Lightroom / ACR / Bridge.

Our goal as a company that provides high quality solutions is that the implementation is right for the customer.

Best,

David

Dustbak · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2009, 12:34:12 pm »

Without wanting to pin you down on something but this does sound as if we will get this at some point in time (rather sooner than later)?

whawn · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2009, 01:08:15 pm »

Quote from: David Grover / Hasselblad

There is no desire on either side to NOT have 3F files working in Lightroom / ACR / Bridge.

So, Adobe thinks H'blad is wanting too much money? Or H'blad thinks Adobe is offering too little?

Both, I'll bet.

David Grover / Capture One · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2009, 01:14:21 pm »

Quote from: whawn

So, Adobe thinks H'blad is wanting too much money? Or H'blad thinks Adobe is offering too little?

Both, I'll bet.

Fortunately not everything is about money.

David

kaimaui · « **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2009, 06:15:10 pm »

Quote from: David Grover / Hasselblad

Fortunately not everything is about money.

David

Well hopefully there will be some support in the future.
I do use Phocus and do not dislike it. For some images I have had great result.
As I wrote in another tread it is more about work flow.
I like to catalog all my images strait after I shoot them. Then over time i will go trough sort delete and eventually work on the files that appeal to me.

Lightroom is where all of this happens. At the moment I translate to DNG. import to lightroom. Then I will go back to the hasselbald raw files with either Phocus or rrp and back into Lightroom / Photoshop with the tiff. et.......

David you did speak some time ago about a plug in for Lightroom.
Is that still something being considered?

Thanks
KAI

HarperPhotos · « **Reply #9 on:** March 19, 2009, 06:32:24 pm »

Gidday,

This was one of the reasons I bought a Leaf Aptus 75 back 3 years ago cause at the time Phase would not work in Adobe.

Luckily since then Phase have seen there error in there ways and have made there Phase backs compatible.

At the end of the day give the customer the ability to choose what Camera Raw developer they what to use.

Cheers

Simon

markowich · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2009, 05:02:01 pm »

i have heard that hasselblad does not feel that adobe does all that is needed to make hasselblad files look good. actually, the same holds for D3x files.
peter

Quote from: David Grover / Hasselblad

Fortunately not everything is about money.

David

eronald · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2009, 05:58:21 pm »

Quote from: markowich

i have heard that hasselblad does not feel that adobe does all that is needed to make hasselblad files look good. actually, the same holds for D3x files.
peter

As for Nikon's own software, the programmers are S, and the users M.

Edmund

markowich · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2009, 06:53:40 pm »

Quote from: eronald

As for Nikon's own software, the programmers are S, and the users M.

Edmund

well, yes. but it does perform.
p

ziocan · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2009, 07:42:25 pm »

Quote from: markowich

i have heard that hasselblad does not feel that adobe does all that is needed to make hasselblad files look good. actually, the same holds for D3x files.
peter

and Sony files as well.

HarperPhotos · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:46:06 pm »

Gidday,

It seems that Hasselblad are making the same arrogant comments that Phase did a few years ago before they finely made the right decision to make there files work in Adobe.

I do all my processing of my Leaf Aptus 75 and Nikon D2X raw images in Adobe Bridge/CS4 and I get fantastic results.

I will repeat myself again in saying GIVE THE PHOTOGRAPHER THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE.

Cheers

Simon

Carsten W · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2009, 04:15:59 am »

Quote from: ziocan

and Sony files as well.

And Leica files. In fact, ACR/Lightroom are known for not being that great with sharpness and corrections for almost every type of camera, except Canon and Nikon. When DPReview first reviews a new camera from some other maker, it almost invariably looks like a poor performer, because they often use only ACR. They may have changed this recently.

David Grover / Capture One · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2009, 04:43:24 am »

Quote from: HarperPhotos

Gidday,

It seems that Hasselblad are making the same arrogant comments that Phase did a few years ago before they finely made the right decision to make there files work in Adobe.

I do all my processing of my Leaf Aptus 75 and Nikon D2X raw images in Adobe Bridge/CS4 and I get fantastic results.

I will repeat myself again in saying GIVE THE PHOTOGRAPHER THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE.

Cheers

Simon

Please note the above comments were not made by Hasselblad!

David

PatrikR · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2009, 01:20:34 pm »

Quote from: Cfranson

Phocus will happily export DNGs for you to process in Adobe Camera Raw.

Does the DNG generated by Phocus carry over the lens corrections (DAC) and lens cast calibrations if applied to an image?

Patrik

Dustbak · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2009, 02:24:44 pm »

No it doesn't, neither does the moire reduction, the color rendition of ACR is also of lesser quality compared to phocus.

eronald · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2009, 02:44:27 pm »

-Is there a reason why Adobe will not support Hasselblad files?

-Them won't because them're idiots!

-Them who?

Edmund

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